Jeff Howe on the Panthers "power dynamics"

[Mr. Scot]

From the article...

Panthers general manager Scott Fitterer and new coach Frank Reich are on the same page as they take a collaborative approach to roster construction. Previous coach Matt Rhule had control over the 53-man roster and didn’t appear overeager to budge on certain decisions. That dynamic will change with Fitterer regaining control while working with Reich for his input.

So basically, a normal NFL front office...

Both Reich and Fitterer are known to be easy going, non-ego driven personalities, so things are expected to go smoothly between them.

I'm sure they thought about going with The Appaloosa Model but they ultimately settled on this instead

[Mr. Scot]

Schuyler Callihan with a little more extended take on the topic here...

 

[Basbear]

Im honestly shocked at anyone thats able to have both HC and GM duties....theres not enough time in the day/week/month/year. Plus the stress level must reach space. Its super difficult to weigh winning now and future building.....cannot imagine that as both.

And David Tepper thought Matt Rhule can do it all and a bunch of other responsibilities......

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Im honestly shocked at anyone thats able to have both HC and GM duties....theres not enough time in the day/week/month/year. Plus the stress level must reach space. Its super difficult to weigh winning now and future building.....cannot imagine that as both.

And David Tepper thought Matt Rhule can do it all and a bunch of other responsibilities......

I feel like that whole time he was in charge was just a really bad dream.

Keep asking myself "Did that really happen?"

Edited February 4, 2023 by Mr. Scot

[Basbear]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I feel like that whole time he was in charge was just a really bad dream.

Keep asking myself "Did that really happen?"

Lucky it over lapped with coofus, so most of it is forgettable!!

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Lucky it over lapped with coofus, so most of it is forgettable!!

And yet we had people arguing right up to the end that he was doing good and could turn it all around given time

Wonder if our old buddy Dr Lunker still thinks that 

[Basbear]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

And yet we had people arguing right up to the end that he was doing good and could turn it all around given time

Wonder if our old buddy Dr Lunker still thinks that 

You put out his ultra bait "Appaloosa Model", lols......I sorta miss him, form a entertaining side 

Truth be told, I bought into(some) after I thought 2020 2-14 was the max record.......he pulled out his standard 5-11 season, *but 8 of those losses were within one scores. Seemed to be a great building block, no other building took place in the coming years..

 

[Mr. Scot]

19 minutes ago, Basbear said:

You put out his ultra bait "Appaloosa Model", lols......I sorta miss him, form a entertaining side 

Truth be told, I bought into(some) after I thought 2020 2-14 was the max record.......he pulled out his standard 5-11 season, *but 8 of those losses were within one scores. Seemed to be a great building block, no other building took place in the coming years..

I was never a fan of hiring a college coach but said I'd give him a chance.

Year one is pretty much always nothing special, but we'd gone into that season expecting to come out with the worst record in the league so 5-11 seemed like an overachieving year.

By about the middle of year two though it was like "oh, okay".

Leroy Hoard used to say "if you need three and a half yards, I'll get you three and a half yards. And if you need five yards, I'll get you three and a half yards."

That statement works well with Matt Rhule if you change it to five wins.

[LinvilleGorge]

It's the norm for a reason. Let the coach focus on coaching and let the GM focus on roster building. Yeah, it's a collaborative effort but both jobs are full time plus jobs. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's the norm for a reason. Let the coach focus on coaching and let the GM focus on roster building. Yeah, it's a collaborative effort but both jobs are full time plus jobs. 

Tepper came in thinking he was gonna revolutionize the league, show everybody how it's done and look like a big balled genius.

Instead he's a massive failure so far, is learning why things are the way they are and looks like a big bald numbskull.

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Tepper came in thinking he was gonna revolutionize the league, show everybody how it's done and look like a big balled genius.

Instead he's a massive failure so far, is learning why things are the way they are and looks like a big bald numbskull.

Yeah, the guys who eventually get full control are generally proven NFL winners with a SB ring or two or more on their fingers.

Not guys who racked up wins against unranked college teams at Baylor and Temple while losing to every actual good team they faced.

[Sgt Schultz]

49 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Im honestly shocked at anyone thats able to have both HC and GM duties....theres not enough time in the day/week/month/year. Plus the stress level must reach space. Its super difficult to weigh winning now and future building.....cannot imagine that as both.

And David Tepper thought Matt Rhule can do it all and a bunch of other responsibilities......

That era pretty much ended when the salary cap started.  Someone would need extremely good assistant coaches and support staff on the GM side to pull it off.  And then they would need to keep those people in place or have a steady stream of exceptional talent to replace them.

The problem The Process had is that he was about as good as he was going to get in year one.  To get better at anything, the person needs to realize they need to get better or even can get better.  He did not see the need, and he thought his methods were the epitome. 

What he discovered was that immortal Jerry Glanville quote, that if you are a pro coach NFL stands for Not For Long. 

[WUnderhill]

54 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Im honestly shocked at anyone thats able to have both HC and GM duties....theres not enough time in the day/week/month/year. Plus the stress level must reach space. Its super difficult to weigh winning now and future building.....cannot imagine that as both.

And David Tepper thought Matt Rhule can do it all and a bunch of other responsibilities......

Imagine having all those responsibilities and then wasting precious time micro managing social media and taking vacations in the middle of the season. Matt Rhule was one of the worst hires ever.

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

Imagine having all those responsibilities and then wasting precious time micro managing social media and taking vacations in the middle of the season. Matt Rhule was one of the worst hires ever.

Good point...

Yikes