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Andy Dalton is a Panther

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The Panthers will be Andy Dalton's fifth team in as many years. He started at some point for the previous four, playing 14 games for the New Orleans Saints last season.

Dalton posted a 95.2 quarterback rating and 7.6 yards per attempt, his highest marks since 2015, with 18 touchdowns and nine interceptions when replacing Jameis Winston in Week 4.

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1 minute ago, ECHornet said:

So a cap hit of ~$3.5mil for 2023. Still leaves plenty of room. I wonder what makes it a total of $8mil guaranteed. 

I think you have to include part of the bonus money since its only being spread over 2 years.  I really didn't look that closely at it. 

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7 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I think you have to include part of the bonus money since its only being spread over 2 years.  I really didn't look that closely at it. 

The $4.835mil signing bonus is Dalton’s at signing of the contract so that’s guaranteed. It is divided between the two years for cap purposes only. 
 

The 2023 base salary of $1.165mil is likely fully guaranteed. 
 

Those two total $6mil and many are reporting $8mil is guaranteed. I’m just wondering where the $2mil extra is coming from. Likely half of the 2024 base is guaranteed. 
 

So if we cut him or he retires after 2023, we eat ~$4.4mil in 2024 dead cap. 

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7 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I think you have to include part of the bonus money since its only being spread over 2 years.  I really didn't look that closely at it. 

There are 2 void years that allowed bonus be be spread over 4 years.

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1 minute ago, ECHornet said:

The $4.835mil signing bonus is Dalton’s at signing of the contract so that’s guaranteed. It is divided between the two years for cap purposes only. 
 

The 2023 base salary of $1.165mil is likely fully guaranteed. 
 

Those two total $6mil and many are reporting $8mil is guaranteed. I’m just wondering where the $2mil extra is coming from. Likely half of the 2024 base is guaranteed. 
 

So if we cut him or he retires after 2023, we eat ~$4.4mil in 2024 dead cap. 

I think they have to also account for incentives he will likely earn built into the contract.  Those little details that get ignored when numbers are tossed around. 

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Just now, Jon Snow said:

I think they have to also account for incentives he will likely earn built into the contract.  Those little details that get ignored when numbers are tossed around. 

I don’t think any of Dalton’s will be considered “likely to be earned” once we pick a QB with #1. Maybe though. 

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