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Albert Breer on Panthers #1 pick (no trade back)


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12 minutes ago, BlackPanther22 said:

But how do you know his front office role is strictly limited to salary cap stuff though? A lot of people do things beyond their initial job description in a work place. Plus I mean the dude was a player and wants a job as a GM one day, it’s not crazy that he’s involved in scouting lol

It's pretty well documented that they view him as future GM material.

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16 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

now ask yourself why arent short guys allowed to play qb?

the same reasons people don't think Victor Wembanyama shouldn't shoot threes.  because they're made stupid by history that means nothing for someone breaking the mold's success or lack thereof. the inherent sarcasm of your question is ironic because if the answer is what you think it is, then Drew Brees doesn't exist and therefore isn't 2nd in literally every QB stat ever. so yes. the answer to 'why don't coaches at other levels allow possible Brees to play QB' is because conservative stubborn coaches at every level have zero interest in taking a risk to break the mold. we've had enough conservative defensive coaches that have to be dragged kicking and screaming into a 250lb top 20 rusher of all time get one yard on 4th and 1--it doesn't feel like our fanbase should be that averse to taking a risk for a change to shatter that mold

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29 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

Scouts, GMs, coaches want dudes to be gifted with Cam size because they thing everything but size is teachable/coachable/fixable.  Not that I'm arguing that, it can be true and work out.  But dudes like Curry and Young have spent their entire lives overcoming their perceived shortcomings/the reason every QB / PG doesn't look like them. Dudes who have grown up gifted the entire time with athleticism have had less reasons to work and to adapt to a game that they could dominate solely on gifts.  It still takes the mentality of a Cam/Manning to buck even athletic gifts. Still. Smaller guys who have been adapting their entire lives-- it's strange for everyone to be running around screaming 'TRUST ME THEY'RE GOING TO STOP ADAPTING RIGHT NOW.'

I mean look where Curry was drafted and what people said about him.  For him to essentially admit that same bias up front about BY seems like---shouldn't we be smarter about saying Curry was too small to hold up, to defend, to get his shot off, to have prolonged success?  People who king size also ignore that at every level, Curry and Young were smaller than everyone, and they succeeded--so asking will they succeed against taller/bigger dudes is a question that has already been answered by them bucking the trend to literally get to this point, and it should be something that works in their favor perception wise but it doesn't because we just want to cling to old ideas.

People born with certain athletic size/traits etc don't have to adapt...their mold is fit towards the position and so they can play it.  When you mix that with someone like P Manning caring as much about the mental side of it--you get a double whammy.  But you have undersized guys like Luke, RW, Brees, even Brady in the sense that he's certainly no AR/Cam--they have to create a separator from the pack of all dudes who have those gifts to separate/elevate themselves...and they don't get to this point without doing it the entire way. 

People ignoring that Bryce has been avoiding big hits/doesn't have injury troubles to this point just to argue that he's at a greater risk--it just seems strange.  We go off on injury history when it does exist but we don't laud that this dude who looks like he's one hit away from getting killed---literally has never been/hasn't missed much time at all? That literally doesn't make sense. 

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