Simms top 40 QB's

[CamWhoaaCam]

1 minute ago, Varking said:

If Caleb Williams was draft eligible he’d go #1 overall over Young. 

I agree on that.

 

He's the closest thing I have seen to Mahomes. Im not saying he will be better, but he definitely has a similar game.

[CamWhoaaCam]

1 minute ago, Wes21 said:

So as long as he's better than Sam Darnold, that's okay with you?  Yeah, we are definitely on different planets.  

Sam Darnold from last year.

 

Yes. We damn near made the playoffs with Darnold. For a rookie if he can be above average and lead us to the playoffs his rookie year I would consider that a success.

 

What's wrong with that?

[ForJimmy]

14 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

So as long as he's better than Sam Darnold, that's okay with you?  Yeah, we are definitely on different planets.  

Rookie year Young being better than peak Darnold would be a nice start. Throw in a better offensive staff and it would make for OROTR. 

[CamWhoaaCam]

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

Rookie year Young being better than peak Darnold would be a nice start. Throw in a better offensive staff and it would make for OROTR. 

Exactly.

 

The talent we have and given our weak schedule. If Bryce can play mistake free football and lead us to the playoffs his rookie season I would call that a successful year. 

 

Year 2 is when I realistically expect a big leap like Trevor Lawrence. 

[CRA]

7 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Exactly.

 

The talent we have and given our weak schedule. If Bryce can play mistake free football and lead us to the playoffs his rookie season I would call that a successful year. 

 

Year 2 is when I realistically expect a big leap like Trevor Lawrence. 

Trevor also had a talent issue his rookie year and a coaching issue.  So his big jump wasn’t just him improving.   It was some of it.  He would have looked better as a rookie if in a place to have success. 
 

Bryce likely is put in a better spot year 1.  

[Aussie Tank]

Bryce has been doubted his whole career and dominated at every level against the best competition at those levels. It would be an outlier for him to fail. It must hurt all these 6’4 career backup QBs see a 5’10 QB dominate 

[Aussie Tank]

36 minutes ago, Varking said:

If Caleb Williams was draft eligible he’d go #1 overall over Young. 

Maybe, maybe not. Never know what the draft process might uncover 

[CamWhoaaCam]

7 minutes ago, CRA said:

Trevor also had a talent issue his rookie year and a coaching issue.  So his big jump wasn’t just him improving.   It was some of it.  He would have looked better as a rookie if in a place to have success. 
 

Bryce likely is put in a better spot year 1.  

I agree which is why I have us winning the division and making the playoffs in his rookie year. 

 

Year 2 is when I expect him to take it to the next level like making the pro bowl and solidifying himself as a top 3 QB in the NFC.

[Aussie Tank]

1 minute ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I agree which is why I have us winning the division and making the playoffs in his rookie year. 

 

Year 2 is when I expect him to take it to the next level like making the pro bowl and solidifying himself as a top 3 QB in the NFC.

Year 2 is where I see the franchise try and invest in some serious weapons for him too. No good having a diva receiver as a rookie imo. But year 2 and the head of the team will handle a alpha receiver better 

[Varking]

3 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Maybe, maybe not. Never know what the draft process might uncover 

His tape is better. His arm is better. His legs are better. He has the weight you look for in an NFL QB. His height is fine for an NFL QB. There’s no doubt in my mind if Williams could enter this class he’d be the number one pick. 

[CamWhoaaCam]

1 minute ago, Aussie Tank said:

Year 2 is where I see the franchise try and invest in some serious weapons for him too. No good having a diva receiver as a rookie imo. But year 2 and the head of the team will handle a alpha receiver better 

Cam had his best passing season as a rookie with Smitty who was a diva WR.

[Aussie Tank]

5 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Cam had his best passing season as a rookie with Smitty who was a diva WR.

Still my opinion that having a diva Wr demanding the ball is not what’s best for a rookie QB to develop long term. 

[Aussie Tank]

11 minutes ago, Varking said:

His tape is better. His arm is better. His legs are better. He has the weight you look for in an NFL QB. His height is fine for an NFL QB. There’s no doubt in my mind if Williams could enter this class he’d be the number one pick. 

You could be right but I wouldn’t bet my house on it there’s a lot of variables when the fine tooth comb comes out. 

[CamWhoaaCam]

1 minute ago, Aussie Tank said:

Still my opinion that having a diva Wr demanding the ball is not what’s best for a rookie QB to develop long term. 

Im not even sure diva WR is a thing anymore.

 

AB was the last of a dying breed. TO/Moss/Ocho Cinco have long been retired.

 

Who in the league right now is even considered a diva WR?