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Sanders talks about running backs being devalued


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50 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Is it crazy to think sanders will be within 15% of CMC at a factor of the cost???

The blueprint episodes gave me the impressions the coaches are high on him. Think he’s going to be a bigger factor than we realize.

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On 7/1/2023 at 11:37 PM, Wolfcop said:

I’m not going to say they are overpaid because of the beating they have to take, but I don’t want to have the highest paid RB in the NFL ever again. 

For real, any non contending team should pay their RB and trade them for high draft capital to a contender. I view it as buying draft capital. 

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There are a lot of reasons for this, but none more glaring than the advent of advanced stat metrics and the ability to determine how offensive linemen are performing. There used to be destination places where RB would usually put up yards. I remember when Terrell Davis retired and the Broncos made Olandis Gary and Clinton Portis into stars behind that line. The Chiefs are perhaps the best example. Priest Holmes to Larry Johnson to Jamaal Charles and a few in between. Teams with poor lines would strike out on RB all the time in the draft with high picks regardless. The Saints were a good example. Ricky Williams and Reggie Bush, two of the most dynamic runners in NCAA history, couldn't do squat behind those lines. 

Teams started to look at what was going on with that and realized the blocking performance in front of the RB was exponentially more important provided you had a RB who was aware enough of the blocking schemes to take the 4 yards the line would create for them on every carry. That isn't an "easy" thing to find, but it's something you can find a hell of a lot easier than you can build an offensive line. I think a turning point was when LeVeon Bell was holding the Steelers hostage for gobs of money and the Steelers and James Conner came in and replicated his effectiveness. That was one of the last examples that confirmed the theory. The return of a star name at RB vs. a league average running back behind the same offensive line is negligible. 

Teams are now building out their running game in reverse. Guards and Centers. Tackles and Tight Ends. Running back is being viewed, fairly justifiably, as a product of those other units performance. There are a handful of guys around the league that are so far above league average that they command a premium, but that's probably about it. It's the same way you used to never see teams go for it on 4th and inches in the first half of football games where now it's a pretty common outcome if you're in no-man's land between the 40's. 

 

 

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Predicting Every NFL Team's Biggest Bust of the 2023 NFL Season

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10081919-predicting-every-nfl-teams-biggest-bust-of-the-2023-nfl-season

"The Panthers should temper expectations, though. Much of Sanders' breakout season last year was due to one of the best offensive lines in football and positive game scripts. According to Player Profiler, Sanders enjoyed the best game script of anyone in the league and was eighth in run-blocking rating.

He didn't rank nearly as high in the metrics that are more reflective of his running like juke rate (35th) or breakaway run rate (29th).

Sanders is a solid back with good blocking. But telling a fanbase that just saw Christian McCaffrey in his prime that Sanders is going to be a star is setting them up for disappointment."

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I just pray he stays healthy because there's not a lot of good depth after him.  I wish there would have been a way to get Foreman to stay.

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On 7/1/2023 at 7:40 PM, KillerKat said:

It was a statement, not a dildo. Dont take it so hard.

Funniest statement ever. If you don't mind I would like to steal this and use it in my professional life doing business. I wont use it on the board as it is yours and you should get full credit but requesting permission to use in real life.

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12 hours ago, Ricky Prickles said:

Funniest statement ever. If you don't mind I would like to steal this and use it in my professional life doing business. I wont use it on the board as it is yours and you should get full credit but requesting permission to use in real life.

 

You needing a statement about a dildo sure does explain a lot.

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