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Matt Moore = 1st Rd Qualifying Offer

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I have a feeling that Matt could be a hotter commodity than we thought.

Matt came in and had a December comparable to that of Peyton Manning. If a team wants a RFA QB they could throw a 1st round draft pick our way for Moore.

Since Matt Moore is a RFA i suggest we set his minimum at a 1st Round Qualifying Offer. Moore in my opinion is better than any QB coming out of this draft, or coming into the FA Market.

I haven't seen the numbers for 2010 Qualifying offers yet, but for 2009 they were around:

Minimum Offer - $1.1 million

2nd round pick offer - $1.545 million

1st round pick offer - around $2.1 million

1st and 3rd round picks offer - around $2.7 million

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If Moore is better than any quarterback in the draft, why would we want to get rid of him for a first (which we would then use to take one of these lesser quarterbacks)?

Or are you suggesting we try to get the first and third for him?

This - 1st rounders are not the end all of end all's that people seem to think...

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Look the guy came in and he performed well, but how can everyone be so sold on him after 5 games? He put up some good numbers and I think he deserves a shot next year in training camp. Think back on Derek Anderson... had a pro bowl year a couple years ago, and now look he didnt turn out to be the QB they thought he was. And Peyton Mannings numbers in December? Peyton didnt see alot of playing time remember? Colts benched their starters, Moore and Manning? Come on if you could choose who would you really want?

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Look the guy came in and he performed well, but how can everyone be so sold on him after 5 games? He put up some good numbers and I think he deserves a shot next year in training camp. Think back on Derek Anderson... had a pro bowl year a couple years ago, and now look he didnt turn out to be the QB they thought he was. And Peyton Mannings numbers in December? Peyton didnt see alot of playing time remember? Colts benched their starters, Moore and Manning? Come on if you could choose who would you really want?

Not sure of your point here, but I definitely think we should keep Moore instead of letting him go for a first round pick. He has as much potential as any QB we might draft. In fact, given our record of drafting QB's, he has more potential.

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Look the guy came in and he performed well, but how can everyone be so sold on him after 5 games?

How many NFL games have Colt McCoy or any of the other more highly-touted quarterbacks entering the draft won?

In my opinion, Moore is a much better option than any free agent available this year. Whether or not he's better than some of the quarterbacks in the draft remains to be seen, but he's certainly done as well as could be expected in his few games starting.

If a rookie came in and played as Moore has this year, we would all be convinced that we had found our franchise quarterback for years to come.

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If you get rid of Moore for a pick you are most likley assuring Jake the starting position next season. Are we willing to sacrifice another season for an unknown factor? I for one am not.

I could see Carolina letting someone snag Moore.....Fox doesn't like Moore and you know Fox isn't going to want to face that next season. Fox will want Jake to start and draft or sign a future replacement..........I simply don't see a scenario where Fox puts anyone ahead of Jake on a depth chart.

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How many NFL games has Colt McCoy or any the other more highly-touted quarterbacks entering the draft won?

In my opinion, Moore is a much better option than any free agent available this year. Whether or not he's better than some of the quarterbacks in the draft remains to be seen, but he's certainly done as well as could be expected in his few games starting.

If a rookie came in and played as Moore has this year, we would all be convinced that we had found our franchise quarterback for years to come.

I'm never sold on any QB coming out of the draft, too many never live up to their expectations so I'm not sayting to get a quarterback out the draft, and I agree he put up good numbers I said that but his stats were being compared to that of Peyton Manning? Seriously? Having said that, like I mentioned earlier I said hes earned the right to compete in camp for the starting job, but after on 5 games I dont know how everyones sayin he is worth a first round and is so sold on him, I think he still should have to prove himself more than what he has. Look at Brady Quinn he came in and he was performing well towards the end of last year but Browns are probably going to deal him and Anderson away.

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Look the guy came in and he performed well, but how can everyone be so sold on him after 5 games? He put up some good numbers and I think he deserves a shot next year in training camp. Think back on Derek Anderson... had a pro bowl year a couple years ago, and now look he didnt turn out to be the QB they thought he was. And Peyton Mannings numbers in December? Peyton didnt see alot of playing time remember? Colts benched their starters, Moore and Manning? Come on if you could choose who would you really want?

Jake only played one game in 2003 before people were sold on him.

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I could see Carolina letting someone snag Moore.....Fox doesn't like Moore and you know Fox isn't going to want to face that next season. Fox will want Jake to start and draft or sign a future replacement..........I simply don't see a scenario where Fox puts anyone ahead of Jake on a depth chart.

If so, then we will be looking at a season much worse than this one. I don't see Jake shaking whatever he's got in his head to be the QB he once was. If Fox can't put the team over his own intuition of what he thinks a QB should be then he's exactly the coach I thought he was. ONE THAT BELONGS SOMEWHERE ELSE!

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