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A comparison 08-09 with DeAngelo and AP...


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.....over the last two years, leaves little doubt who is better. Please note the following stats for the last two years.

DeAngelo Williams 489 carries 2,683 yards 5.4 avg 3 fumbles

Adrian Peterson 677 carries 3,143 yards 4.6 avg 15 fumbles

DeAngelo has fumbled once every 163 carries. Adrian fumbles every 45 carries.

It is true DeAngelo may be a bit fresher, but he also does not get quite as much of a chance to get "into the game flow"

For those who think Adrian Peterson is better, when fumbles are considered as part of the equation, it ISN'T EVEN CLOSE.

Leaving Chris Johson aside for a moment...let's get another year from him, and remember, DeAngelo could EASILY have run for 2,000 yards last year if he was not sharing carries...he is the best running back in the league.

Also...according to my very solid, BUT NOT 100 GUARANTEED ACCURATE research, only DeAngelo Williams and Jim Brown, based on reasonable amounts of carries, have ever averaged 5.0 ypc for three years.

DeAngelo could break that next year and be the only running back of all time who has averaged 5.0 yards a carry for three years.

He is one half level above Adrian Peterson, those of you who think otherwise are nuts, read the stats!

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I think using Stewart as much as we do will help deangelo stay around a couple more years than Adrian Peterson. I like Adrian Peterson but I think he is overated. He is just a big running back who can run over people and just happens to have great speed for his size. He had a off year this year but he is just used so much he is going to alway put up 1,300 yards a season. Now that teams are preparing against him more his numbers are going down. Not to mention he fumbles a whole lot which isnt good at all. He is great in all aspects of running except ball handling which is why I dont think he is an elite RB. Look at yesterday what happend to him. I say give it a few more years and he will start getting injured and then he will get slower and be out of the league at an early age.

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.....over the last two years, leaves little doubt who is better. Please note the following stats for the last two years.

DeAngelo Williams 489 carries 2,683 yards 5.4 avg 3 fumbles

Adrian Peterson 677 carries 3,143 yards 4.6 avg 15 fumbles

DeAngelo has fumbled once every 163 carries. Adrian fumbles every 45 carries.

It is true DeAngelo may be a bit fresher, but he also does not get quite as much of a chance to get "into the game flow"

For those who think Adrian Peterson is better, when fumbles are considered as part of the equation, it ISN'T EVEN CLOSE.

Leaving Chris Johson aside for a moment...let's get another year from him, and remember, DeAngelo could EASILY have run for 2,000 yards last year if he was not sharing carries...he is the best running back in the league.

Also...according to my very solid, BUT NOT 100 GUARANTEED ACCURATE research, only DeAngelo Williams and Jim Brown, based on reasonable amounts of carries, have ever averaged 5.0 ypc for three years.

DeAngelo could break that next year and be the only running back of all time who has averaged 5.0 yards a carry for three years.

He is one half level above Adrian Peterson, those of you who think otherwise are nuts, read the stats!

note the bolded words.

So if we take away two of D-will's poor years and take away one of AP's good years, they have comparable stats. Interesting.

And if Chris Johnson strings together two good years, well wait and see because you say a player should have 3 good years before he gets props. But deangelo has two good years and he's the best in the leauge?:confused:

You have a good point about the fumbles and how they're a bit ignored. But after that your rampant love for D-will compromises your logic. I love him too but this is getting a bit extreme.

You can't project stats on a linear curve assuming a player will keep up the same pace. The NFL is not that predictable or reliable. All players are different. Until D-will rushes for 2,000 yards he doesn't deserve the credit for it. Chris Johnson did it so he gets the credit. They don't name valedictorians based on IQ, you have to make the grades.

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Leaving Chris Johson aside for a moment...let's get another year from him, and remember, DeAngelo could EASILY have run for 2,000 yards last year if he was not sharing carries...he is the best running back in the league.

in 2008? maybe.

2009? no.

best back in the league? it's not even clear cut that he's the best back on his team.

Also...according to my very solid, BUT NOT 100 GUARANTEED ACCURATE research, only DeAngelo Williams and Jim Brown, based on reasonable amounts of carries, have ever averaged 5.0 ypc for three years.

hasn't this already been discussed? they aren't the only two.

did you forget about this thread?

DeAngelo could break that next year and be the only running back of all time who has averaged 5.0 yards a carry for three years.

big props to him should he do it.

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