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Where I'm at midseason

Mr. Scot

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think the bigger deal for me would have been the ability to put off the decision until we saw more of what was going to happen under Reich.

That would have required patience though, and neither Tepper nor the fanbase seems to have much of that.

I think the fanbase has patience, but there has to be something positive to be patient about. So far there hasn't been much from Fitts trades, to the draft, to Tepper, to the offense (or lack thereof). Playing off preseason like it made no difference just put wood on the pyre and at 1-7, the fire has been lit and the fan base is ready to watch it all burn. 

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1 minute ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I think the fanbase has patience, but there has to be something positive to be patient about. So far there hasn't been much from Fitts trades, to the draft, to Tepper, to the offense (or lack thereof). Playing off preseason like it made no difference just put wood on the pyre and at 1-7, the fire has been lit and the fan base is ready to watch it all burn. 

To be fair, the fanbase has been ready to "watch it all burn" for years.

(under Rhule It might have been justified)

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Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

I think the fanbase has patience, but there has to be something positive to be patient about. So far there hasn't been much from Fitts trades, to the draft, to Tepper, to the offense (or lack thereof). Playing off preseason like it made no difference just put wood on the pyre and at 1-7, the fire has been lit and the fan base is ready to watch it all burn. 

I don't believe the fan base has much patience. I think just the fact that so many thought that we were pushing for the playoffs is indicative of impatience.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

To be fair, the fanbase has been ready to "watch it all burn" for years.

(under Rhule It might have been justified)

The fanbase has been ready to do a rebuild the right way. No more of this half ass poo we keep doing. Embrace the suck, cuz we're already there, and just do it right from the ground up. 

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1 minute ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

The fanbase has been ready to do a rebuild the right way. No more of this half ass poo we keep doing. Embrace the suck, cuz we're already there, and just do it right from the ground up. 

See I think we are doing a rebuild, even if it's not acknowledged to be so.

I know this is where people disagree with me, but that's still my belief.

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1 minute ago, top dawg said:

I don't believe the fan base has much patience. I think just the fact that so many thought that we were pushing for the playoffs is indicative of impatience.

I'm not sure if that's impatience as much as delusion. We may have gotten close to a playoff berth last year, but it wasn't going to even be by "winning" the division. It was just a game of who sucked less. TB got obliterated in the WC game. Can't even imagine how bad we would have. This team wasn't ready to drop a QB in and make a playoff run. 

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

See I think we are doing a rebuild, even if it's not acknowledged to be so.

I know this is where people disagree with me, but that's still my belief.

You dont do a rebuild by trading away you best players and draft picks for 1 player.

 

This numb nut crew actually thought they could win this year, that is concerning when the average huddler can look at the roster preseason and know we are a couple years out at best.  Now I am not even sure how and how long a turnaround takes

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See I think we are doing a rebuild, even if it's not acknowledged to be so.

I know this is where people disagree with me, but that's still my belief.

We've half ass embraced it. Trading CMC was the start. Keeping Burns despite a ridiculous offer said we weren't. Then we trade for the 1st hampering our ability to actually build around our new QB. Now we haven't signed Burns, probably going to lose him unless a miracle happens with his contract, have a bunch of dead money floating around. It's been bits and pieces but not a full scale rebuild. 

Tepper made it clear he wants to win now and we're on our 5th plug and play QB for the division in 4 years. Either win for a season or win for a decade. Gotta pick one.

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4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

See I think we are doing a rebuild, even if it's not acknowledged to be so.

I know this is where people disagree with me, but that's still my belief.

Not sure how you can reach that conclusion after trading away a 1st next year and denying 2 1sts from the Rams for Burns last season. Unless you're saying we wanted the rebuild to start with a rookie QB, and us standing pat and not trading anything away since is a rebuild... which I guess is what we should be doing but holy smokes. 

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5 minutes ago, Panthering said:

Not sure how you can reach that conclusion after trading away a 1st next year and denying 2 1sts from the Rams for Burns last season. Unless you're saying we wanted the rebuild to start with a rookie QB, and us standing pat and not trading anything away since is a rebuild... which I guess is what we should be doing but holy smokes. 

If you ask a lot of GMs what the foundational pieces for a team are, they'll often say quarterback, left tackle and pass rusher.

The belief last year was that we had two of those three.

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