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College Football Week 11: As the Harbaugh Continues to Turn

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Have you seen the Giants' OL? 

yeah they blow but its not like they haven't tried with andrew thomas and evan neal both being top 10 first rounders in the past 5 years. they can also address it in the draft/ FA. UNC's OL sucks too. drake made about 5 throws with a guy pretty much on top of him tonight. The poo he pulls and gets away with is truly remarkable. Like I said if he works out he will be the new Eli. the biggest star in the biggest media market cause lord knows the yankees/knicks arnt doing anything anytime soon.

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1 minute ago, DJ feed me moore said:

yeah they blow but its not like they haven't tried with andrew thomas and evan neal both being top 10 first rounders in the past 5 years. they can also address it in the draft/ FA. UNC's OL sucks too. drake made about 5 throws with a guy pretty much on top of him tonight. The poo he pulls and gets away with is truly remarkable. Like I said if he works out he will be the new Eli. the biggest star in the biggest media market cause lord knows the yankees/knicks arnt doing anything anytime soon.

Trying doesn't matter. Their trying poorly. Their efforts on the OL are like our efforts at QB.

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3 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

 

 

Riley shouldn’t be a head coach. He should coach offense and that’s it. I mean that’s what he does anyway but if he didn’t have to help recruit defense or spend time talking to defensive coaches his offense would be even better. 
 

Dan Mullen was like that too. 

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2 minutes ago, Varking said:

Riley shouldn’t be a head coach. He should coach offense and that’s it. I mean that’s what he does anyway but if he didn’t have to help recruit defense or spend time talking to defensive coaches his offense would be even better. 
 

Dan Mullen was like that too. 

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23 hours ago, beo said:

It's just grandstanding. A lot of people around here claim to hate watching a soft team with no identity oopsie it's way into garbage football year after year yet every time an opportunity to actually develop an identity presents itself all of it sudden the tide shifts to pearl clutching along the lines of "Wait.. no! I'd rather keep losing than win in THAT way." This place would've hated Cam if he was on a different team because people in general tend to hate on successful people who have polarizing personalities. So the cope to justify it is that he "burned out" at his other locations. One thing that the Huddle does often is manufacture a narrative and then it gets regurgitated over and over again until eventually it becomes the one truth and if you disagree with it, clearly you're just some conspiracy nut who's off his pills. 

I find it very difficult to even fathom the argument that Harbaugh wouldn't be a great thing for this team. He didn't grow "old" in SF, he got ran out by a new, big shot owner who wanted to put his stamp on things. Sound familiar? The evidence given for this "he grows tired with his players" spiel is often just sighting his last season in SF, like going 8-8 is some horrible year when it'd be the best year we've had in SIX SEASONS. And that's while ignoring the context behind the scenes that he had the owner and notoriously god awful general manager breathing down his neck and ready to axe him the second an opportunity presented itself because there had long been a power struggle brewing in SF. Oh, and that one Deion Sanders report (lmfao) that often gets cited as the gospel ignores the very real possibility that it was leaked from someone within the organization who had it out for him in the power struggle (probably Baalke himself.) Something a SI article even reported on in the wake of the entire fiasco.  (https://www.si.com/nfl/2014/12/29/jim-harbaugh-jed-york-san-francisco-49ers-coaching-search

If y'all ever want to see Tepper get his hands out of football ops, you go and hire Harbaugh.  We need a vocal coach that will come in and stand up to Tepper's bullsh!t.  Because as egotistical as Tepper may be, he clearly doesn't enjoy losing either. We've been stuck in utter futility for 5 years doing things the Tepper way. If Harbaugh comes here, does things his way, and we start winning games? That could be the catalyst for change in Tepper's approach to running this team that we need to see. We should be practically begging for Harbaugh. He could be the difference long-term between us becoming a perennial, Lions-esque loser and actually morphing into a competent football organization. And no, that isn't even slightly hyperbole. Remember what the Niners were like after Harbaugh got pushed out? They were WORSE than we are now. York, similar to Tepper, was hiring yes-men like Jim Tomsula and what that got them was a cumulative record of 17-47 (.265) from 2015-2018.
 
 Even assuming this incredibly flimsy narrative is true and he does wear out his welcome after a few years.. if those few years not only showed Tepper that there are more ways than his and encouraged him to stop meddling in football ops, but we also made the playoffs a few times? Like are people seriously trying to argue that would somehow be a bad thing? Having a transitional coach just to get this team even on the general right TRACK would be good for us. Giving any coach personnel decisions makes me uneasy but if that's what it takes to get him here I'd honestly drink the bitter chalice and do it at this point. Harbaugh or a coach like him is the exactly thing this team needs. We need a coach that will show Tepper that there are more ways than his or the spiral into ownership hell is only going to get worse and we're just going to become the new Browns. 

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42 minutes ago, Varking said:

Riley shouldn’t be a head coach. He should coach offense and that’s it. I mean that’s what he does anyway but if he didn’t have to help recruit defense or spend time talking to defensive coaches his offense would be even better. 
 

Dan Mullen was like that too. 

Oh, he's definitely a head coach he just needs to hire a legit DC and then completely leave him alone.

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