Offseason FA!!

[Varking]

2 hours ago, RJK said:

If I was any top FA I’d take less money to play anywhere but Carolina. 

That’s what they do, or get equal value. It’s why Foreman left and who can blame him?

[recceice]

1 hour ago, Varking said:

To be fair I was talking about, specifically, free agents. We are missing picks to offer up more picks for a great WR. So we have to go the FA route. And most top end WRs DONT hit the free agent market. 

He then asked you after your comment who hit the free agent market and you listed OBJ who is perpetually injured, Hopkins who is 22nd in receiving yards as of now and Meyer who is 33 in receiving yards. Higgins is younger and more productive than both of the last few seasons. He’s going to get a nice contract. 

And when they do they choose to not come here. You listed a bunch of guys that for the most part never hit the open market to allow for a bid war. Again, there are like 10 teams with more cap space than us that could use him and every single one of those teams looks more complete than us and has a better record than us and has more first round draft picks than us this upcoming draft. 
 

The appeal here would have to be a massive overpay at the risk that his head coach is going to get fired, his OC is going to get fired, and the guy throwing him the ball might be a bust. You’d have to offer a contract that takes care of him for longer than need be, for more money than need be to lure him from those other teams. 
 

And we still have to sign Burns and extend Brown. Eating into the cap. 

Going thru this article.. 

1. The list was posted by Josh Norris 

https://x.com/joshnorris/status/1727023084333629514?s=46&t=-UJBTSFvMTzAfVccG8qD_Q

He is pretty tapped in so if he thinks these players could reach FA..

So I put out a opinion thread based off a football analyst thoughts..

2. It not like any of these guys are Hill, Adams level.. So if we had to trade for them.. A 2nd at the most maybe all we need.. And Higgins or Evans is a better more proven option then anybody we can draft in the 2nd round this year..

3. He asked a question and I answered it..

When OBJ and Landry  signed with the Browns to help Baker they were both top 25 Wr’s and that was 2019 (4 years ago)…

Hopkins here now would be a our number 1 right now.. He has played with how many Bad Qb’s this year and you want to make a number statement???  Meyers right now would be a godsend over the crap we have now.. 
 

4. At no point in this thread did I say anything else but we will have to overpay for talent.. So you’re not solving any mysteries.. The point is that might be the only option.. 

No 1st round pick so no 1st round talented Wr’s. Don’t trust this staff in finding WR talent in the draft anyway. Soooooooooooo what exactly is the plan other then to spend in FA and get your Young QB help???

 

[mrcompletely11]

6 hours ago, recceice said:

Going thru this article.. 

1. The list was posted by Josh Norris 

https://x.com/joshnorris/status/1727023084333629514?s=46&t=-UJBTSFvMTzAfVccG8qD_Q

He is pretty tapped in so if he thinks these players could reach FA..

So I put out a opinion thread based off a football analyst thoughts..

2. It not like any of these guys are Hill, Adams level.. So if we had to trade for them.. A 2nd at the most maybe all we need.. And Higgins or Evans is a better more proven option then anybody we can draft in the 2nd round this year..

3. He asked a question and I answered it..

When OBJ and Landry  signed with the Browns to help Baker they were both top 25 Wr’s and that was 2019 (4 years ago)…

Hopkins here now would be a our number 1 right now.. He has played with how many Bad Qb’s this year and you want to make a number statement???  Meyers right now would be a godsend over the crap we have now.. 
 

4. At no point in this thread did I say anything else but we will have to overpay for talent.. So you’re not solving any mysteries.. The point is that might be the only option.. 

No 1st round pick so no 1st round talented Wr’s. Don’t trust this staff in finding WR talent in the draft anyway. Soooooooooooo what exactly is the plan other then to spend in FA and get your Young QB help???

 

Landry and obj didn’t sign with the browns they were traded.  You clearly don’t understand what you are talking about here.   

[recceice]

3 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Landry and obj didn’t sign with the browns they were traded.  You clearly don’t understand what you are talking about here.   

You clearly have a axed to grind because of some precived (by you) internet stranger beef.. You want to nit pick a opinion thread by fixating on semantics.. When the thread was about players that “could ”be available.. No matter if it’s a trade or a signing.. The whole point is these players could be available..  I didn’t make the list or have the power to make these players available.. Josh Norris said they could and I posted a question (with the caveat of they could be available) so you nit picking based on “Signing them in FA” doesn’t matter.. That wasn’t a set in stone precedent to get one of these players.. At some point you should recognize you’re being petty for no reason at all..

And derailing conversation based on some internet big cookie award and strangers adulation you think is important… You are literally following my post activities to quote and reply because I disagreed with one of your many dumb opinions..  Do you have me on notifications so every time I post you can run and quote me?? I go weeks without posting here and every time I do here you come.. It stop being a coincidence 3 months ago..

 

 

Edited November 22, 2023 by recceice

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, recceice said:

You clearly have a axed to grind because of some precived (by you) internet stranger beef.. You want to nit pick a opinion thread by fixating on semantics.. When the thread was about players that “could ”be available.. No matter if it’s a trade or a signing.. The whole point is these players could be available..  I didn’t make the list or have the power to make these players available.. Josh Norris said they could and I posted a question (with the caveat of they could be available) so you nit picking based on “Signing them in FA” doesn’t matter.. That wasn’t a set in stone precedent to get one of these players.. At some point you should recognize you’re being petty for no reason at all..

 

The thread title created by you clearly says Offseason FA! and then you proceed to go on some random tangent about players that are not indeed free agents.  But you be you buddy.  You clearly dont know what a nfl free agent is and its not even close to semantics.  Its simple understanding of what a true free agent is.

[recceice]

3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

The thread title created by you clearly says Offseason FA! and then you proceed to go on some random tangent about players that are not indeed free agents.  But you be you buddy.  You clearly dont know what a nfl free agent is and it’s not even close to semantics.  It’s simple understanding of what a true free agent is.

So the fug what!! 
“OmG the thread title says this so i have to stick to the letter of the law MB forum rule of not using actual cognitive thinking and form a opinion..” 

And Offseason is in the title as well .. Since we’re playing this dumbass game .. Can you make trades in the offseason as well?? 
 

But I’m sorry my bad.. I didn’t know thread title dictated all perimeter in threads now.. lol

[Mr. Scot]

Would you consider this a fairly accurate summary or have they missed anything?

 

[WhamBamTYCam]

16 hours ago, recceice said:

At this point the long term plan is put Bryce in the best situation to succeed.. 

Not sure that is possible.  I just don't think Bryce is the guy.  hope I am wrong.

[WhamBamTYCam]

18 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Would you consider this a fairly accurate summary or have they missed anything?

 

Yes but I think LG is good if we move Ickey there but then we need a LT.

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, WhamBamTYCam said:

Yes but I think LG is good if we move Ickey there but then we need a LT.

That could potentially be Christensen but my guess is they'd look elsewhere first.

One big advantage for him is he actually does do well at zone blocking.

Edited November 22, 2023 by Mr. Scot

[Mr. Scot]

 

[Mr. Scot]

Klein and Richardson have a good conversation going on this topic...

 

[pantherj]

I think the top priority has to be fixing the o-line. Start in the trenches and work your way outward. If we can't afford to fix the o-line and bring in a #1 WR, then you fix the o-line first. If you bring in a #WR it won't matter due to the amount of pressure and sacks Young is enduring. 

2024 address the trenches. Extra money or picks? Go get a better WR than D.J Chark.

[CamWhoaaCam]

2 hours ago, recceice said:

You clearly have a axed to grind because of some precived (by you) internet stranger beef.. You want to nit pick a opinion thread by fixating on semantics.. When the thread was about players that “could ”be available.. No matter if it’s a trade or a signing.. The whole point is these players could be available..  I didn’t make the list or have the power to make these players available.. Josh Norris said they could and I posted a question (with the caveat of they could be available) so you nit picking based on “Signing them in FA” doesn’t matter.. That wasn’t a set in stone precedent to get one of these players.. At some point you should recognize you’re being petty for no reason at all..

And derailing conversation based on some internet big cookie award and strangers adulation you think is important… You are literally following my post activities to quote and reply because I disagreed with one of your many dumb opinions..  Do you have me on notifications so every time I post you can run and quote me?? I go weeks without posting here and every time I do here you come.. It stop being a coincidence 3 months ago..

 

 

He does this to everyone he doesn't like.

 

Some people need real life help. I wouldn't take this message board seriously. Some people just come here to vent off on others.