Peter King: Just Walk on By

[SaltAndPepper]

To people that want a young offensive coach... or people that want a highly touted fresh face (Anarumos and McDonalds)...

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2023/12/12/panthers-peter-king-david-tepper-frank-reich-bryce-young-week-14/

 

Maybe someone can correct me on this, but I've never seen an Owner's reputation destroyed in six years. Dan Synder... Hugh Culverhouse... none of them can say that they did this. 

[Frank9999]

Man screw Peter King. 

[Brent Gregory]

What he's done to this organization is criminal. For a start up franchise we had a pretty awesome run the first 2 decades. Nfc championships, superbowl appearances and many playoff appearances.  Sure we had growing pains but those seasons produced good results later. Tepper has came in and turned this organization into the worst and most toxic in pro sports.  He's taken our Panthers and turned them into an absolute nightmare for the loyal fans. I wish rules were in place that totally incompetent deranged owners could be forced to sale. I knows there's nothing we can do except turn the channel or stop buying tickets. 

[CPF4LIFE]

I mean he is right, its just what i said. If tepper wants to get a hot name coach in here he better be prepared to back the fug off. If not, it will be rhule or reich all over again.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Frank9999 said:

Man screw Peter King. 

I mean... he ain't wrong. Plenty of us here have basically been saying that Tepper is either going to have to grossly overpay or settle for someone who doesn't have any other NFL HC options. I mean, the Lions' OC turned down a second interview to stay in Detroit as a coordinator vs. potentially working for Tepper as a HC and that was BEFORE he fired another coach after 11 games and mortgaged the short to medium term future of the franchise on a severely physically limited QB.

This wasn't a great job a year ago. But it's the worst job in the NFL now. Tepper has to change for that to change.

[Frank9999]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I mean... he ain't wrong. Plenty of us here have basically been saying that Tepper is either going to have to grossly overpay or settle for someone who doesn't have any other NFL HC options. I mean, the Lions' OC turned down a second interview to stay in Detroit as a coordinator vs. potentially working for Tepper as a HC and that was BEFORE he fired another coach after 11 games and mortgaged the short to medium term future of the franchise on a severely physically limited QB.

This wasn't a great job a year ago. But it's the worst job in the NFL now. Tepper has to change for that to change.

I dont know, part of me thinks the extent of his mingling might not be as bad as its being made out to be. This could all be the result of just “listening” to bad football people. 

Edited December 12, 2023 by Frank9999

[Selltheteamtepper]

Now if this is how coaches view the position imagine what free agent players think. Is any player with options coming here without us having to overpay? Why would you?

[Frank9999]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I mean... he ain't wrong. Plenty of us here have basically been saying that Tepper is either going to have to grossly overpay or settle for someone who doesn't have any other NFL HC options. I mean, the Lions' OC turned down a second interview to stay in Detroit as a coordinator vs. potentially working for Tepper as a HC and that was BEFORE he fired another coach after 11 games and mortgaged the short to medium term future of the franchise on a severely physically limited QB.

This wasn't a great job a year ago. But it's the worst job in the NFL now. Tepper has to change for that to change.

The lions coach turned down all 2nd interviews…not just with panthers. 

[Frank9999]

Have people ever considered that maybe Tepper has just been listening to the wrong people ?? 
 

Everyone just assumes hes trying to call ALL the shots. 

Edited December 12, 2023 by Frank9999

[Frank9999]

And i also dont see why Tepper is actively encouraging going behind the head coach just because it happened. Maybe the issue is those coaches simply did not respect Reich.  

[TheSpecialJuan]

GOOD

[Frank9999]

What if the real problem..is just Scott Fitterer?

[rayzor]

The big problem is he wants to succeed too much, but he thinks it's on him to ensure it happens and the more he fails, the more he feels he has to fix it or make sure he fixes it.

What makes it even harder is he's no smarter than many fans. You look at that thread that talks about what we would do to fix the team and I could see him in there going , "yeah! This is what I need to do!"

Not that he would read any and take suggestions, more that his mind is working the same way most of ours do....thinking that he knows more about how to run/fix a team than we actually do.

It's ok for us, because we're just dumb fans dreaming. It's not ok for him because he's just a dumb fan who owns a team and wants to run it.

And what makes it even worse is this is something he's obsessed with and he's not going to be able to let go or back away. he'll hire and get involved in every aspect and he'll listen to and be influenced by too many voices (including his wife).

Hire a president of football operations who knows his poo, then give him the authority to run the team and then back the hell off.

[rayzor]

9 minutes ago, Selltheteamtepper said:

Now if this is how coaches view the position imagine what free agent players think. Is any player with options coming here without us having to overpay? Why would you?

It's not like we have been a great draw anyways.