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Scott Fowler: Cutting Delhomme was a mistake

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Do you Agree w/ Scott Fowler  

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So now he is being paid starter money to not play....what is your point?

Pay him $12.7M as a back-up....or pay him $12.7M to not play.

The only way this makes financial sense is for future years. Dump his $12.7M now and no cap hit. Keep him and release him in a year or two and you would have $6-8M of cap hit in that year. That is the only way this makes sense.

Posts like yours is evidence that you could never run a company or organization. You let your emotions drive your decisions. When that happens, you usually fail.

Given the poor quality of any post you have ever made, you would be better served to lurk in the weeds and learn from your elders.

Because he is a wasted roster spot. He can't play QB. thats all. nothing you can say will change that. He can't play. And save the insults. makes you look bad.

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with the sentimental attachment that many on the team had for jake, it was going to be nearly impossible for moore to take the team over in the offseason. best thing for moore and the team was to eliminate jake altogether.

you want to move forward? cut ties with the past.

Jes.

Locker room distraction.

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in addition to getting rid of him b/c they want Moore starter and some players may be too attached to jake...Panthers may want to draft a QB too, they did make the most early formal interest in The Golden Calf of Bristol. What if he's available when they pick? You can't have your highest paid QB 3rd string, you bite the bullet.

speaking of The Golden Calf of Bristol, I agree he's got alot to work on and is a shot in the dark. However after watching him on NFL network, you can see the determination in his eye, I think he has chance to pay off big time. He says he will work 14hr days to become a starter, I beleive him. Question is whether that type of work ethic will turn him into an NFL QB?

I wouldn't under-estimate him, plus I think the odds of him partying too much and being lazy like say a Kerry Collins and most NFL players are slim. I think he beleives God wants him to play Football, as a Missionary. Thats a powerful motivation.

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I agree that I think this is a bad move.

I did not want Jake to start. However, he is as good a back-up QB as we will sign. Plus, he knows this offense and is respected in teh locker room.

If Fox could have ensured that Jake would be the back-up, I would have voted to keep him.

Fox's inability to change is what forced JR to make this move.

Word.

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Mr. Scot Grand Master

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I don't necessarily know that it's a bad move.

My preference this offseason was to go into next year with Moore as the starter and McCown as the backup, but I didn't expect that to happen because of Delhomme's contract.

It would have made sense to keep Delhomme around for his leadership and intangibles. In those areas, he could have made a good mentor to Matt Moore. But on the flipside, letting him go so that Moore doesn't have him looking over his shoulder is just as valid an option.

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I don't necessarily know that it's a bad move.

My preference this offseason was to go into next year with Moore as the starter and McCown as the backup, but I didn't expect that to happen because of Delhomme's contract.

It would have made sense to keep Delhomme around for his leadership and intangibles. In those areas, he could have made a good mentor to Matt Moore. But on the flipside, letting him go so that Moore doesn't have him looking over his shoulder is just as valid an option.

Scott Fowler, why aren't you backing your opinion piece?

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in addition to getting rid of him b/c they want Moore starter and some players may be too attached to jake...Panthers may want to draft a QB too, they did make the most early formal interest in The Golden Calf of Bristol. What if he's available when they pick? You can't have your highest paid QB 3rd string, you bite the bullet.

speaking of The Golden Calf of Bristol, I agree he's got alot to work on and is a shot in the dark. However after watching him on NFL network, you can see the determination in his eye, I think he has chance to pay off big time. He says he will work 14hr days to become a starter, I beleive him. Question is whether that type of work ethic will turn him into an NFL QB?

I wouldn't under-estimate him, plus I think the odds of him partying too much and being lazy like say a Kerry Collins and most NFL players are slim. I think he beleives God wants him to play Football, as a Missionary. Thats a powerful motivation.

nah dude, dan lafevour.

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Fowler is exactly right. The Panthers could have waited for this decision until after camp with no consequence. Plus his money is guaranteed so he gets paid regardless of whether he plays If the FO was worried about future cap hits they would have given Jake the 10 million signing bonus which would have voided his future payments and made everything count this year when there is no cap. They would have had his services if Moore gets hurt and an opportunity for Jake to mentor Moore this year. It would have cost nothing more and indeed give us insurance given the last time we had a quarterback finish the whole year was 2005 and Moore has had his issues with injury as well. It would have given us an opportunity to see if Moore is the real deal and whether Jake was through. Next year if there was a lockout there would be no financial consequence where now there is. Plus if we reach a CBA agreement next year we have our first rounder back which is a perfect time to draft a QB high. Unless Hurney gives our picks away again to reach into the first yet again, we won't find a starter in the draft if Moore gets hurt.

If you take the emotion out of the decision, it didn't make sense financially or football wise. I don't agree with Fowler or a lot but for once he got it right.

How do you cut other older players that actually are playing decent football and justify leaving Jake on the team? They appear to be cutting the fat and he certainly qualifies.

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another reason for this is to take temptation away from fox to put jake back in. it's pretty evident, esp from the press conference, that fox is pretty emotionally tied (shocker, i know) to jake. if things got rough for moore then fox would be tempted to put jake back in and he would do it a whole lot quicker than he ever did with replacing jake.

very well could have been the same deal with deshaun foster. higher ups tell fox it's time to move on and then eliminate the temptation by cutting foster loose.

it was the right move. if jake gets picked up by another team (which its looking like he might) then we aren't on the hook for the money either.

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