Rumor: Tee Higgins to be tagged

[Basbear]

On 2/14/2024 at 3:36 PM, CamWhoaaCam said:

Well we will continue to suck your way.

 

Maybe some day Tepper will realize you need elite players to win. Look at our roster and you wonder why we are the worst team in football.

 

Hopefully your way works sooner than later. 

 

 

18 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

This offense can't be fixed with Bryce at QB imo. The best we can hope for is the defense being the best in the league and hope Bryce can become a game manager. That is our best chance at winning next year.

 

Adding Jones to this defense and Evero calling plays would give us a legit opportunity to have the best defense in football.

Jones has already said hes coming back to KC. 

[tukafan21]

1 hour ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

^This guy is a robot. He repeats the same thing every time as if he made a new point. Maybe someday you will figure out we just don't agree on team building.

 

But you don't understand this so you will continue to repeat yourself.

I keep repeating myself because you keep putting out utterly moronic ideas about moves this team should make.

You don't understand how real life NFL teams operate, you live in a fantasy/madden world and view real football through that lens.

You were the person saying we were going to contend for a SB this season, instead we ended up with the literal worst team in the league.

But keep telling me about how I don't understand things and you do, go on, keep saying it

[tukafan21]

3 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 

 

Jones has already said hes coming back to KC. 

I mean to be fair, he said that on stage while he was uber drunk and his agent immediately tweeted out that the bartenders need to cut those guys off LOL

[tukafan21]

28 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

This offense can't be fixed with Bryce at QB imo. The best we can hope for is the defense being the best in the league and hope Bryce can become a game manager. That is our best chance at winning next year.

 

Adding Jones to this defense and Evero calling plays would give us a legit opportunity to have the best defense in football.

And this again is where you prove that you don't understand how building an NFL team works.

If we were to sign Jones like you want, it's not just adding him to this years defense.  If we were to sign Jones, odds are that means we aren't able to re-sign Luvu and most likely not able to keep Burns around as well, as he'd likely cost what the two of them would make combined.

Do you still think adding Jones would make us the best defense in the league if you took those two off the team?

We'd be a team with two elite DT's and nobody else even close to being good enough to make us a top defense, let alone THE top of the league.

And yes, there would be ways of signing him while keeping them, but that would then mean even more cuts to other places, like Moton for example, which would only make our already poor OL even worse, and thus again, cutting off our nose to spite our face out of your NEED to get "elite" players regardless of age, position, fit, cap sense.

You want to win RIGHT NOW... but the fact remains is that the Panthers will not be a winning team next year, no matter how bad you want it.

RIGHT NOW is the time to properly build up the franchise, and you don't do that by signing a 30 year old DT to the biggest defensive contract in the game, not when your current best player is already a DT who needs his own contract extension.

Edited February 15, 2024 by tukafan21

[CamWhoaaCam]

52 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Our Bryce led offense averaged 13 points per game. Hope is not a solution. The best defense in the NFL in 2023 was Baltimore and they averaged 16.2 allowed. We have to be 4 points better than the best team in the NFL last year to stand a chance at winning a game with the current state of our offense. What good does it do to have the best defense in football if you can't score? 

You seriously think adding a elite WR is going to make Bryce turn this offense around?

 

We can get a WR in the draft. Corales already said they will look for quick/smaller WRs. Most of the elite WR in FA are bigger guys Higgins/Evans/Pittman.

 

Jones is arguably the best FA on the market, if we can get him we can legit be a force in defense. Bryce can get his help in the draft.

[CamWhoaaCam]

51 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I keep repeating myself because you keep putting out utterly moronic ideas about moves this team should make.

You don't understand how real life NFL teams operate, you live in a fantasy/madden world and view real football through that lens.

You were the person saying we were going to contend for a SB this season, instead we ended up with the literal worst team in the league.

But keep telling me about how I don't understand things and you do, go on, keep saying it

I can accept how you feel about team building.

 

It's you who can't accept how I view team building.

 

Sorry that is hurts you that I don't agree with you. I promise I'm not trying to be difficult. I just believe we need to try something different. We need to bring in some elite players because those players can help you win games. I know you like to think otherwise but the record says your way is not working.

[tukafan21]

3 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

You seriously think adding a elite WR is going to make Bryce turn this offense around?

 

We can get a WR in the draft. Corales already said they will look for quick/smaller WRs. Most of the elite WR in FA are bigger guys Higgins/Evans/Pittman.

 

Jones is arguably the best FA on the market, if we can get him we can legit be a force in defense. Bryce can get his help in the draft.

[CamWhoaaCam]

49 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

And this again is where you prove that you don't understand how building an NFL team works.

If we were to sign Jones like you want, it's not just adding him to this years defense.  If we were to sign Jones, odds are that means we aren't able to re-sign Luvu and most likely not able to keep Burns around as well, as he'd likely cost what the two of them would make combined.

Do you still think adding Jones would make us the best defense in the league if you took those two off the team?

We'd be a team with two elite DT's and nobody else even close to being good enough to make us a top defense, let alone THE top of the league.

And yes, there would be ways of signing him while keeping them, but that would then mean even more cuts to other places, like Moton for example, which would only make our already poor OL even worse, and thus again, cutting off our nose to spite our face out of your NEED to get "elite" players regardless of age, position, fit, cap sense.

You want to win RIGHT NOW... but the fact remains is that the Panthers will not be a winning team next year, no matter how bad you want it.

RIGHT NOW is the time to properly build up the franchise, and you don't do that by signing a 30 year old DT to the biggest defensive contract in the game, not when your current best player is already a DT who needs his own contract extension.

LMAO you can't help yourself. Repeat, repeat, repeat...

 

Dude we don't agree leave it at that. It's like you talking in circles. I know how you view team building. I accept your viewpoint I just don't agree with it.

[tukafan21]

5 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I can accept how you feel about team building.

 

It's you who can't accept how I view team building.

 

Sorry that is hurts you that I don't agree with you. I promise I'm not trying to be difficult. I just believe we need to try something different. We need to bring in some elite players because those players can help you win games. I know you like to think otherwise but the record says your way is not working.

It's not about accepting how you view building the team, it's that you don't look at things realistically.

If you want to make your stupid suggestions for what moves we should make, feel free.  

Just please doing it in a way that takes into consideration the roster and salary cap implications, because it's painfully obvious to anyone who has seen your posts for the last year that you just don't understand those things.

You don't live in reality when it comes to the Panthers, you keep saying how signing Jones would make us an elite defense, but ignore that signing him would almost assuredly mean we can't keep Luvu or Brown, and likely then also can't solve any WR problems.

When after Brown and Jones, our 3rd best defensive player would be Horn who can't stay on the field and I honestly can't tell you who would be our 4th best player, that isn't an elite defense.

In your head, we'd be adding Jones to this past season's defense, but in real life, there is a 0% chance of that happening, it would cost us at least 1 if not both of our other two good defensive players from this past season.

And again, it's not just about adding elite players, it's about adding the right players at the right positions.  

We don't need another pass rushing DT, we need a 350 lbs run stuffing DT (assuming we keep the 3-4).

I've also agreed that we need a new WR, but again, you throw out the most unrealistic scenarios, such as all season long you kept talking about how we have to throw the brinks truck at Higgins, despite it being SO OBVIOUS to anyone who knows football, that he was going to be tagged so they could trade him.

Edited February 15, 2024 by tukafan21

[CamWhoaaCam]

3 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

We finally agreed on something because this is my reactions to you repeating yourself lol

[tukafan21]

1 minute ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

LMAO you can't help yourself. Repeat, repeat, repeat...

 

Dude we don't agree leave it at that. It's like you talking in circles. I know how you view team building. I accept your viewpoint I just don't agree with it.

I'm the one on repeat?

All you do is keep throwing out the most unrealistic ideas, so I keep pointing out why they each aren't at all  realistic possibility.

You don't understand the NFL, at all, it's so painfully obvious and it makes this place worse off by having you posting on it, it makes the Panthers fan base look extremely ignorant (from a football standpoint, I don't mean to demean you as a person, just your knowledge of the NFL game).

[Jon Snow]

15 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

I'm the one on repeat?

All you do is keep throwing out the most unrealistic ideas, so I keep pointing out why they each aren't at all  realistic possibility.

You don't understand the NFL, at all, it's so painfully obvious and it makes this place worse off by having you posting on it, it makes the Panthers fan base look extremely ignorant (from a football standpoint, I don't mean to demean you as a person, just your knowledge of the NFL game).

Don't waste your time.  Just put him on ignore like most sane folks do around here.

[CamWhoaaCam]

13 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Don't waste your time.  Just put him on ignore like most sane folks do around here.

You doing me a favor Mr. Scot

[tukafan21]

22 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

You doing me a favor Mr. Scot

What's that?

Having less people be able to see your asinine posts and thus less people with the ability to call them out for how non-logical the ideas are?

Sure, guess that helps you not look as bad at this as you really are