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Official NHL Playoffs Thread 2024

Panthers Fan 69

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kungfoodude Grand Master

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11 hours ago, Day1PanthersFan said:

An elite Goalie in the NHL is like an elite QB in the NFL 

You ain't winning a title without one 

We have been cycling through Sam Darnold and Zach Wilson level goalies the last 5 years 

 

TBH, there have been quite a few non-elite goalies winning recently.

If Edmonton wins, Skinner is far from an elite goalie. Bobrovsky CAN be an elite goalie. He has been both a dumpster fire and elite in the past. Each season is a box of chocolates with him in net.

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

TBH, there have been quite a few non-elite goalies winning recently.

If Edmonton wins, Skinner is far from an elite goalie. Bobrovsky CAN be an elite goalie. He has been both a dumpster fire and elite in the past. Each season is a box of chocolates with him in net.

True enough, you just need an average goalie to get hot at the right time - unfortunately that never happened with us the last 5 years

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52 minutes ago, organicrusty1201 said:

True enough, you just need an average goalie to get hot at the right time - unfortunately that never happened with us the last 5 years

Well, Freddie just can't be counted on. He couldn't even be "good enough." The bulk of the playoffs he was visibly shaken and unable to be effective. He just isn't a guy that is dependable during the postseason.

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2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Well, Freddie just can't be counted on. He couldn't even be "good enough." The bulk of the playoffs he was visibly shaken and unable to be effective. He just isn't a guy that is dependable during the postseason.

Here's what we've learned about Freddie over the past 3 seasons:

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2021-2022: 52 (reg season) games played with a 2.17 GAA and 922 SV %. No post season due to injury

2022-2023: 34 (reg season) games played with a 2.48 GAA and 903 SV %. 9 playoff games were better with a 1.83 GAA and a 927 SV %. He was far better in the post season than the regular season, but a short season due to injury.

2023-2024: 16 (reg season) games played with a 1.84 GAA and a 932 SV %. 10 playoff games with a 2.62 GAA and a 895 SV%. Another short season due to injury.

But the glaring number here should be the fact that with 246 regular season games over the past 3 seasons, Freddie has only played 102 of those. We have paid him $4.5M to play in a total of 50 regular season games and 19 post season games over the past 2 years.

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38 minutes ago, Anybodyhome said:

Here's what we've learned about Freddie over the past 3 seasons:

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2021-2022: 52 (reg season) games played with a 2.17 GAA and 922 SV %. No post season due to injury

2022-2023: 34 (reg season) games played with a 2.48 GAA and 903 SV %. 9 playoff games were better with a 1.83 GAA and a 927 SV %. He was far better in the post season than the regular season, but a short season due to injury.

2023-2024: 16 (reg season) games played with a 1.84 GAA and a 932 SV %. 10 playoff games with a 2.62 GAA and a 895 SV%. Another short season due to injury.

But the glaring number here should be the fact that with 246 regular season games over the past 3 seasons, Freddie has only played 102 of those. We have paid him $4.5M to play in a total of 50 regular season games and 19 post season games over the past 2 years.

Koochie Mane is the way.

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1 minute ago, organicrusty1201 said:

Totally agree - give Kooch 2/3 of the starts and a rested Freddie will be fine as a back-up, just keep him away from the playoffs. Freddie has proven to be a fine regular season goalie.

I am fine with 50/50. You have to assume at this point Freddie is gonna miss a lot of time with injury so it will end up being closer to that 2/3.

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17 hours ago, organicrusty1201 said:

Totally agree - give Kooch 2/3 of the starts and a rested Freddie will be fine as a back-up, just keep him away from the playoffs. Freddie has proven to be a fine regular season goalie.

 

17 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I am fine with 50/50. You have to assume at this point Freddie is gonna miss a lot of time with injury so it will end up being closer to that 2/3.

Paying a backup or a 50/50 goalie $4.5M a year is ridiculous. Knowing he'll be injured at some point and likely miss 20 games, play in maybe 25 or 30 behind Kochetkov, $4.5M is also irresponsible and not smart.

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