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Bryce Young ready to get back to work, grow as a leader


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51 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

My post answers this question quite thoroughly.  What is the point in trashing him?  Does it make you feel better? Nobody is in disagreement about his play needing to improve and that starts with the OL, WRs, coaching, etc.  If he still can't get it done, he will be replaced.  I have been endorsing a trade down to add a second rounder in the 2025 draft so that we can move up if we need to for a QB next year.  That is covering the reality that he might not be the answer, but I also know that blaming him and ignoring the conditions he was asked to perform in is not fair to him.  Give him his tools.

Threads like this at their core, at least for me, are really just irritations at the Panthers org for the bullshit they sling each year.  I don't need it.   I don't like it.  I like the world without the bot. 

 

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2 hours ago, CRA said:

For those wanting to know what he has been up to this offseason….

"Literally. Nothing," he replied with a laugh. "I was kind of away from football for the most part, just living every other aspect of my life” 

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I have no words 

for most pro qbs, they live and breath this stuff

if he were some uber gifted athlete, maybe, he isn’t 

his happy ass best perform this year

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2 minutes ago, CRA said:

Cam Newton spent his first NFL offseason basically living at BOA.    

What Cam Newton did as a rookie in a lockout year is nothing short of remarkable.

I just don't see that drive in Bryce Young. He's never been through the adversity Cam endured at either level. I believe a part of why he was made the pick is because the Tepper's thought he was the most marketable.

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1 hour ago, rayzor said:

it's not being positive just to be positive. it's looking for reasons to be positive because i hate feeling like crap about the team. until this iteration of the panthers proves otherwise, i choose to believe that they can figure out a way to not suck and actually be fun to watch again.

and superfan...lol. i'm just a guy that always tries to look for the good. 

This is where I'm at. If it begins to upset my mood I do not need to be involved with it. The whole state of the franchise has become quite amusing to me. I find enjoyment when there's something positive that happens, no matter how small.  I've learned to laugh at the negative elements that exist because that's how bad it's gotten. I've become accustomed to expect the worst and count anything positive as a blessing. It is what it is - old Foxy

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Just now, rayzor said:

i think we're a 6-8 win team this year. and that's me being really optimistic. i'd be really happy to see that.

I'm not ready to make any predictions with this year's team. There's just too many unknowns involved to know what to expect. Ask me again after preseason. 

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1 hour ago, Adb6368 said:

Becoming a vocal leader will be step 1 of a long list of things that need to happen for this to work out. 

even cam needed smitty to leave before becoming the teams leader. 

sometimes it takes time. 

you are correct.  

the difference is Cam was an athletic superstar.   

Bottom line, Young has to produce   He has to not be the problem 

….he cant ask others to do what he  can’t do himself

i dont want to hear anything from him.  I want to see him effectively and efficiently drive the field when it matters and score a TD, or egads, win more than 2 games

this year is his ‘tale of the tape’   2.7 seconds one of  his tangible measurements 

as a fan, and I’m one of many, he gives me no  hope, no excitement and franchise qbs in that category don’t last long in the big boy league.

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4 minutes ago, rayzor said:

i think we're a 6-8 win team this year. and that's me being really optimistic. i'd be really happy to see that.

like last year, I could care less about the record.  I just want to see some entertaining offensive play.  You got to start solving that problem. 

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1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

This is where I'm at. If it begins to upset my mood I do not need to be involved with it. The whole state of the franchise has become quite amusing to me. I find enjoyment win there's something positive that happens, no matter how small.  I've learned to laugh at the negative elements that exist because that's how bad it's gotten. I've become accustomed to expect the worst and count anything positive as a blessing. It is what it is - old Foxy

someone told me once the best way to eat fish is eat the meat, leave the bones. take the good stuff and be happy for it and leave the bad stuff behind. 

now if i was in a position to make change happen, then it would be important for me to pay more attention to the bones. as a fan, though, i don't bear that responsibility. i don't need it. i don't want it. i've got enough on me as it is. i need to have things in my life that give me an escape from all of that (not that i need to escape from my life, it's actually quite good) but i have to make a lot of decisions and be hyper critical in other areas of my life. 

i'm quite happy to leave that stuff to guys that get paid to do it while i sit back and try to enjoy as much as i can.

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3 minutes ago, CRA said:

like last year, I could care less about the record.  I just want to see some entertaining offensive play.  You got to start solving that problem. 

i'm hoping that Canales and an upgraded OL and receiving corps will be enough. win or lose, i just want to have fun watching.

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