PFF Reporter and Bucs Analyst predictions on wins plus breakout players

[Waldo]

21 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

That throw took a running start so not the best example. I think he has a much better arm than stated but the injury thing is also intriguing.

[strato]

4 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

We gotta bring in old man Dalton for our hail marys. lol

New strategy to eliminate this embarrassing scenario. 

Dalton will be brought in for a pre Hail Mary deep throw, designed at making the Hail Mary manageable for BY9. 

[LinvilleGorge]

3 hours ago, electro's horse said:

neither has a naturally talented arm and need to use their entire body to throw things that look like nfl throws

 

Didn't make it past that. Couldn't take anything beyond that seriously since Baker has a very good NFL arm. None of his struggles have been due to lack of arm.

[electro's horse]

4 hours ago, Tr3ach said:

That's not true though?  Baker has a really strong arm.  I believe he currently holds the record for longest air yards pass in a game.  I could be mistaken but I'm fairly certain.  He's just always been known as an accurate dink and dunk guy since college. 

he takes five steps for that

to give an extreme counter example, this got kyle boller drafted by brian billick

 

 

[electro's horse]

3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Didn't make it past that. Couldn't take anything beyond that seriously since Baker has a very good NFL arm. None of his struggles have been due to lack of arm.

naturally talented wasn't the right term, granted. obviously all these guys are naturally talented.

but baker isn't a big guy that can generate a ton of force, as evidenced as how he's played like complete poo in the past when he's had nagging injuries.

another comparison is vick, who probably had the strongest arm in nfl hsitory. i will never forget him in his rookie year against carolina rolling right out of the pocket and throwing a 50 yard dime TO HIS LEFT to bob christian who had waddled down to the goal line while vick just dodged every defender the panthers had.

[electro's horse]

4 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

like who cares. with no one around him, he five hopped into a blimp out of bounds. ken dorsey was in a long throw contest against beurlein in the late 90s.

compare that to this throw you may have seen before

 

[Jackie Lee]

4 hours ago, Waldo said:

That throw took a running start so not the best example. I think he has a much better arm than stated but the injury thing is also intriguing.

Yeah there's plenty of others, I was just giving Tr3ach a clip of the throw he was trying to remember. Unfortunately NFL is now cracking down on Twitter videos now that Musk monetized it so it's getting harder to find clips that will play embedded in the browser, any video stamped official NFL opens an X browser or takes you to the app now 

[strato]

15 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

naturally talented wasn't the right term, granted. obviously all these guys are naturally talented.

but baker isn't a big guy that can generate a ton of force, as evidenced as how he's played like complete poo in the past when he's had nagging injuries.

another comparison is vick, who probably had the strongest arm in nfl hsitory. i will never forget him in his rookie year against carolina rolling right out of the pocket and throwing a 50 yard dime TO HIS LEFT to bob christian who had waddled down to the goal line while vick just dodged every defender the panthers had.

Pie for 'waddled'.

[LinvilleGorge]

24 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

but baker isn't a big guy that can generate a ton of force

 

24 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

another comparison is vick, who probably had the strongest arm in nfl hsitory. 

 

[electro's horse]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

 

 

vick was a freak; that's the point.

i've had masters level gross anatomy i can explain the concept of muscle insertion points and shoulder capsules to you at another time, if you'd like.

one of my favorite pieces of sports trivia is that vick was the number 2 highschool recruit coming out of virginia. the guy ahead of him was considered by many to be the biggest high school recruit of all time. without looking, who can remember who that was?

[Navy_football]

7 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

vick was a freak; that's the point.

i've had masters level gross anatomy i can explain the concept of muscle insertion points and shoulder capsules to you at another time, if you'd like.

one of my favorite pieces of sports trivia is that vick was the number 2 highschool recruit coming out of virginia. the guy ahead of him was considered by many to be the biggest high school recruit of all time. without looking, who can remember who that was?

The kid that played basketball at UNC, right? Curry?

[strato]

I am going to say most of the top QB prospects are freaks to some degree. Pretty sure you don't want 'not a freak'.

Also just want to say, talk about defending every blade of grass, you might be playing against Mike Vick. 

[electro's horse]

1 minute ago, Navy_football said:

The kid that played basketball at UNC, right? Curry?

nations top recruit in basketball AND football

[electro's horse]

1 minute ago, strato said:

 

Also just want to say, talk about defending every blade of grass, you might be playing against Mike Vick. 

once a month i wake up screaming, dreaming of his 4th down dive against carolina in 2004.