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Naming the QBs that struggled is the same thing as saying oh Peyton Manning and Troy Aikman had horrible rookie years, and applying that to Young as if he is those guys... when they were prototypical prospects and Young is a total outlier physically. 

And saying it without acknowledging that plenty of horrible mistakes had bad rookie seasons, and just stayed horrible. 

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13 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

especially guys who work hard and are willing to learn like Bryce.

 

bryce literaly did nothing in the offseason except watch netflix and go to LIDS

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"I was kind of away from football for the most part, just living every other aspect of my life. Just hanging out, being around family, being around friends, getting back to a routine that doesn't revolve as much around football. For me, it was still being able to just enjoy and work out, but the Xs and Os actual football part, kind of stepping away from it."

"Legit, it sounds boring, like I'm holding something out, but I'm not. But it's really like I watch YouTube, I watch TV, I watch Netflix, and every once in a while, I'll go someplace to maybe look at some clothes or something. There's nothing really cool that I'm just trying to hang onto. I'm definitely kind of a homebody. I'm an only child, so I'm used to being able to just chill on my own. That's how I decompress. So it's really just that."

https://www.panthers.com/news/bryce-young-ready-to-get-back-to-work-grow-as-a-leader

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5 minutes ago, strato said:

Naming the QBs that struggled is the same thing as saying oh Peyton Manning and Troy Aikman had horrible rookie years, and applying that to Young as if he is those guys... when they were prototypical prospects and Young is a total outlier physically. 

And saying it without acknowledging that plenty of horrible mistakes had bad rookie seasons, and just stayed horrible. 

I've said that over and over.  Bryce may very well be exactly what we are seeing.

I've also repeatedly said that my argument isn't really about BW.  Pick any widget.  Pick any player. I would not bet my job on any evaluation based on last year.  I think that our coaching staff, players (especially oline) and scheme (Frank's was beyond awful) are better than last years.  Then we trot Bryce out in the first two games and he played HORRIBLE.  BAD.  YUCK. 

Based on those first two games he regressed greatly from his rookie year.  So, Canales benches him to see if he can fix him and begin to put him on a path toward improvement.  Canales was hired in part because of his work with similar QB's who struggled.  Canales saw he was horrible.  Benched him.  Realized he had some things from his rookie year he needed to undo.  He developed a plan and path that is in progress now to see if he could turn into something.  All I keep saying is let's find out.  Beats riding out the year with Dalton or some random UDFA and man what if Canales does do what he did with Geno or Baker? 

Geno was so bad he was a back up for 7 years.  We got Baker because no one else, except Matt Rhule, wanted him and even when we did get him the Browns paid most of his contract.

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20 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

bryce literaly did nothing in the offseason except watch netflix and go to LIDS

https://www.panthers.com/news/bryce-young-ready-to-get-back-to-work-grow-as-a-leader

Sigh.  Literally the very next paragraph, you cherry picking troll.

"Of course, you don't end up winning a Heisman or being picked first overall if you're too good at laying about doing nothing. And he admitted that sleeping in lasted all of about a week, at which point he got back to morning workouts and getting ready for the physical challenges to come."

He goes on to talk about his growth, path towards improvement, etc.

 

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5 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

Sigh.  Literally the very next paragraph, you cherry picking troll.

"Of course, you don't end up winning a Heisman or being picked first overall if you're too good at laying about doing nothing. And he admitted that sleeping in lasted all of about a week, at which point he got back to morning workouts and getting ready for the physical challenges to come."

 

lmao "back to morning workouts." what does that mean? he's smaller than he was last year, was he crushing that AM pilates class 

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28 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

 

how about this year

 
CMP ATT CMP% YDS AVG TD INT LNG RTG
92 153 60.1 820 5.4 4 6 46 66.9

Yes, absolutely but I would throw out the first two games except to say that is how bad he started out.  If I'm Canales I'm looking forward from that. 

What is different?

Did sitting and watching improve him in any ways?  Confidence, becoming more familiar with the system, a new coaching staff, new players?

Since that reset Canales and Morgan have repeatedly said they have a plan for Bryce.  We've seen that plan over the last three games and we've seen improvement.  That is literally all I'm looking for at this stage.  Is he improving each week?  Is the team growing?  Is a culture developing.

Ya'll keep acting like I'm trying to convince you Bryce Young is great and has no flaws or that he's ready right now to lead us to the playoffs and super bowls.  All I'm saying and keep repeating is give Canales a chance to do what he did with Geno and Baker and enjoy a win without poo posting.

 

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12 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

lmao "back to morning workouts." what does that mean? he's smaller than he was last year, was he crushing that AM pilates class 

Maybe.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5683925/2024/08/07/nfl-players-pilates-fitness-recovery/

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CniQuHTJIDg/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=076cb6f3-e2a5-4dca-8e9e-8106dabd5b25

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