If you wanted Danny Dimes here’s the chance

[strato]

13 hours ago, bythenbrs said:

True.  Sam and Baker did not do well here but went on to better things under better coaching, circumstances or both.  The real question is, ‘why aren’t the Panthers able to get improved performance out of ‘broken toys’, similar to Minnesota and Tampa?

That is a rhetorical question.  I think we know the answer.  

[The cultural reference to Pogo dates me, I’ll admit.]

Both those guys  were thrown into the same role they had failed in up to that point. 

They needed a reset, not to be immediately thrown back into the fire. 

That's what I think about that.

[MHS831]

8 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Brother, if you watch Daniel Jones play football and think to yourself, "Man, that's Cam Newton!" I mean....what really more is there to say?

We are not on the same wavelength with this take. At all.

Did I say that? Once again, you have to childishly misrepresent my data so you can pound your chest without stats/data to argue.  Have you followed his career? Nope--just watched the Giants lose and blamed the QB.  sure, he has not played well of late--but the whole career tells a different story--one that you intentionally ignore because the facts I shared were stunningly revealing.  The difference between Cam and Jones is statistically slight--Jones was on worse teams--that is not subject to debate.  the rest is your opinion-why are you attacking my statistics and data because it disproves your opinion?  Here is what we know--there is no answer--you do not know--and all I am doing is providing data that suggests we should kick the tires.   I know it stings, but the point was not to say--"Man, that's Cam Newton."  There you go again.  You do not understand the point--Statistically, draw the line between the Greatness of Cam and the suckage of Jones--you can't, and that is why you simply provide no stats.  Why attack people who disagree with your uninformed and unsupported opinions?  To me, that is insecurity--hope it works out for you.

Edited November 25, 2024 by MHS831

[MHS831]

The only responses I am getting after providing statistics to put opinions in perspective seem to be from people who get angry and attack stats and people whose opinions differ from their own.  Have people on the Huddle ever overreacted, exaggerated, been wrong about players before?  Sure they have, so an alternative opinion with statistical support should not cause you to attack me or my views without support or an alternative point of view.   I think Jones, in a better situation, could be good--that should not upset you--to be honest, I don't give a crap if you twist my words and deny stats and data--so move on.  I have a different opinion.  Take some deep breaths.

Edited November 25, 2024 by MHS831

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

The only responses I am getting after providing statistics to put opinions in perspective seem to be from people who get angry and attack stats and people whose opinions differ from their own.  Have people on the Huddle ever overreacted, exaggerated, been wrong about players before?  Sure they have, so an alternative opinion with statistical support should not cause you to attack me or my views.   I think Jones, in a better situation, could be good--that should not upset you--to be honest, I don't give a crap if you twist my words and deny stats and data--so move on.  I have a different opinion.  Take some deep breaths.

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

The only responses I am getting after providing statistics to put opinions in perspective seem to be from people who get angry and attack stats and people whose opinions differ from their own.  Have people on the Huddle ever overreacted, exaggerated, been wrong about players before?  Sure they have, so an alternative opinion with statistical support should not cause you to attack me or my views without support or an alternative point of view.   I think Jones, in a better situation, could be good--that should not upset you--to be honest, I don't give a crap if you twist my words and deny stats and data--so move on.  I have a different opinion.  Take some deep breaths.

You're a poo poo head

[MHS831]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You're a poo poo head

walked into a room full of mouth breathers.  I knew comparing Jones to Cam (and the numbers were parallel for the most part) would piss them off.   It did. I haven't broken the news to them yet that I have stats that prove Santa is not real.  Saving it for a rainy day.

[TD alt]

I'm not gonna cry if Daniel Jones becomes a Panther. There's still some talent there. Perhaps Canales can pull it out. At this point, there's not really too much to lose. I'd be shocked if he comes here though.

[TD alt]

On 11/23/2024 at 8:14 PM, kungfoodude said:

Who is thinking, "We are good with Bryce" that has a functional brain?

Jones is also clearly a broken toy. We don't do well with broken toys. 

We have a new regime, where the HC has arguably done pretty well with "broken toys" as you call them.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

walked into a room full of mouth breathers.  I knew comparing Jones to Cam (and the numbers were parallel for the most part) would piss them off.   It did. I haven't broken the news to them yet that I have stats that prove Santa is not real.  Saving it for a rainy day.

Couple years back, wife and I were in a Target store early December. Saw an older guy with white hair, long white beard/ mustache, small glasses, basically the whole Santa aesthetic, sitting on a bench near the entrance.

Mom walks in with a daughter, I'd say four or five years old. Little girl sees this fella, gets excited and points him out to her mom

Occurred to us that probably happens to him a lot this time of year.

[kungfoodude]

13 hours ago, TD alt said:

We have a new regime, where the HC has arguably done pretty well with "broken toys" as you call them.

Name one bust QB Dave Canales has ever rehabilitated?

[TD alt]

7 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Name one bust QB Dave Canales has ever rehabilitated?

"Bust" is a matter of definition. What you consider a bust, others might not and vice versa. Suffice it to say that he helped Geno Smith and Baker Mayfield resurrect their careers (as has been well publicized), and both of those guys praised Canales for helping them. He is now in the process of helping Bryce Young become at least serviceable. 

Not sure why you'd ask that question, as it's very obvious. Canales may or may not be a lot of things, but he knows how to connect with QBs on some level that helps them improve (and maybe even succeed).

 

[strato]

It is still too early to crown Canales but he has a track record with a couple of guys that trended up when working with him. One, right now. At the same time he and Idzik also have strong WR background. That is a good match for our situation so I want it to work, and think it could.

 

[Jackson113.2]

To the Vikings what I'm hearing 

[CRA]

Daniel Jones would make more sense than Andy Dalton