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The Panthers historically have been obsessed with projecting the WRs they get in the draft for height/weight/speed and overall athletic protentional and tend to ignore straight up production and eye test on college WRs. 

This is why we've ended up with WRs like Funchess, Mingo, TMJ, Curtis Samuel, and now Legette, among others. None of them   had great consistent production in college and were viewed as projects (maybe minus TMJ who was good on LSU).  

The only WR the Panthers ever drafted that had not much college production but ended up being a beast was Musin Muhammad. his stats are kinda like Legettes in college in that he didnt really do much until his last year in college.

Even Steve Smith wasn't insane in college but had over 20 yards per reception in his limited time at Utah. That stands out. 

DJ moore had DECENT college stats and ended up being good in the NFL. So that ones kind of a wash. 

The main trend is, Panthers almost never draft WRs that have overwhelmingly great stats in college. I can not find one WR in their modern drafting history that fits that profile.

Puka Nakua had pretty mediocre college stats. I didnt watch him play so maybe the Rams staff were just using the eye test there and saw his toughness and thought it would translate to the nfl. DJ Moore  + Steve Smith were the closest we ever came to this kind of a WR pick.

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3 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

The Panthers historically have been obsessed with projecting the WRs they get in the draft for height/weight/speed and overall athletic protentional and tend to ignore straight up production and eye test on college WRs. 

This is why we've ended up with WRs like Funchess, Mingo, TMJ, Curtis Samuel, and now Legette, among others. None of them   had great consistent production in college and were viewed as projects (maybe minus TMJ who was good on LSU).  

The only WR the Panthers ever drafted that had not much college production but ended up being a beast was Musin Muhammad. his stats are kinda like Legettes in college in that he didnt really do much until his last year in college.

Even Steve Smith wasn't insane in college but had over 20 yards per reception in his limited time at Utah. That stands out. 

DJ moore had DECENT college stats and ended up being good in the NFL. So that ones kind of a wash. 

The main trend is, Panthers almost never draft WRs that have overwhelmingly great stats in college. I can not find one WR in their modern drafting history that fits that profile.

Puka Nakua had pretty mediocre college stats. I didnt watch him play so maybe the Rams staff were just using the eye test there and saw his toughness and thought it would translate to the nfl. DJ Moore  + Steve Smith were the closest we ever came to this kind of a WR pick.

Puka was great in college. I actually saw him first hand because I was defensive quality control intern for a school that he played against and he torched us.

His problem was staying healthy but he’s definitely a guy we keyed in on. During our research we found that he was averaging a TD about every 7 touches. He was very dynamic in college and only snuck through the cracks because injuries kept him out for quite a few games.

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9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, Kupp was a monster in college but there were a lot of questions about whether or not it would translate to the NFL coming from a D1AA school and then having a pedestrian combine.

I think Jerry Rice and Terell Owens came from no-name schools. So IDK how valid that argument is. 

I guess its valid a probability sort of way. Its statistically improbable you'd find great WR from small schools but I don't think its a coincidence that top 5 WR in receiving yards all time went to small schools.

#1 WR  Jerry Rice : Mississippi Valley State University

#2 WR  Larry Fitzgerald: University of Pittsburg

#3 WR  Terell Owen: University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 

#4 WR Randy Moss: Marshall

#5 WR Isaac Bruce: Memphis

I guess you can argue that Pittsburg and Memphis arent small schools? but they def were not and are not known for putting out premier college WRs

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1 minute ago, Hoenheim said:

I think Jerry Rice and Terell Owens came from no-name schools. So IDK how valid that argument is. 

I guess its valid a probability sort of way. Its statistically improbable you'd find great WR from small schools but I don't think its a coincidence that top 5 WR in receiving yards all time went to small schools.

#1 WR  Jerry Rice : Mississippi Valley State University

#2 WR  Larry Fitzgerald: University of Pittsburg

#3 WR  Terell Owen: University of Tennessee at Chattanooga 

#4 WR Randy Moss: Marshall

#5 WR Isaac Bruce: Memphis

I guess you can argue that Pittsburg and Memphis arent small schools? but they def were not and are not known for putting out premier college WRs

That's five names over the course of 30 years. Probably about the same as every other position group. Projecting college players to the NFL is hard. Doing it from lower levels of college competition is even harder. It's not about the program they come from as much as it is about the level of competition they faced.

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The Bills are not contenders. They have a great QB and not much else. People hype them every year. 

 

Let's be real the Chiefs are going to win the AFC and the SB. The NFL is rooting for a 3 peat and you better believe the refs got the memo.

 

If you betting you better put all your money on the Chiefs. They have help behind them. I'll leave it at that.

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