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3 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Jalen Hurts got 43 YAC on 108 passing yards 

Bryce Young got 52 YAC on 191 passing yards 

Josh Allen yesterday had 342 passing yards 184 came from YAC

Thielen, Legette and Coker all have under 100 YAC on the season

Thanks for caling that out.  I think that's one of our main issues.  

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15 minutes ago, NAS said:

Thanks for caling that out.  I think that's one of our main issues.  

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55% of DJ Moore’s yards have come from YAC

A lot of these come on screen because Caleb can’t hit the broad side of a barn throwing downfield 

Some of these QB’s are getting a lot of easy yards. Meanwhile I can’t recall us running a single effective screen all season 

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Just now, *FreeFua* said:

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55% of DJ Moore’s yards have come from YAC

A lot of these come on screen because Caleb can’t hit the broad side of a barn throwing downfield 

Some of these QB’s are getting a lot of easy yards. Meanwhile I can’t recall us running a single effective screen all season 

It's because Dave calls them when everyone knows it's coming. I'm not sure why they cannot do screens with a tinkers damn but they need to figure it out.

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1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

It's because Dave calls them when everyone knows it's coming. I'm not sure why they cannot do screens with a tinkers damn but they need to figure it out.

The last game the announcers pointed out how bad our center was on the screen play. 

I don't necessarily think it is that he's calling them when everyone knows its coming. We just don't have the practice to sell them as anything but screens yet, I think.

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26 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Jalen Hurts got 43 YAC on 108 passing yards 

Bryce Young got 52 YAC on 191 passing yards 

Josh Allen yesterday had 342 passing yards 184 came from YAC

Thielen, Legette and Coker all have under 100 YAC on the season

tbf to Coker, he has 90 on just 263 yards receiving. He just hasn't been able to get on the field much. Sanders, too, has 50% of his yards on YAC. So we have those guys - they just were injured the last 2 weeks (very clear they are bringing Sanders along slowly given his play time this last game).

Thielen will never be huge YAC for us because of his age. Legette, well, I don't know.  I just want him to catch some fuging passes.

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13 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

The last game the announcers pointed out how bad our center was on the screen play. 

I don't necessarily think it is that he's calling them when everyone knows its coming. We just don't have the practice to sell them as anything but screens yet, I think.

I had forgotten about that comment from the announcers. They were right about our center situation. 

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1 hour ago, TN05 said:

As a founding member of Bryce Haters Inc., I relinquish my membership. This is everything I wanted to see and more, but most importantly he's showing he is clutch. I'm seeing routine conversions on 3rd and long, an amount of slipperyness that has to be infuriating to play against, and generally excellent decision making.

His pocket awareness has been excellent the last few games for sure. 

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4 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

"The Eagles did not look like a team close to the No. 1 seed in the NFC, even though they looked as if they might have been the best team in the league just a week ago."

Hmm best team in the league until they played the Panthers? 😉 

 

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6 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

I wish I knew how the fug that thing is calculated given his KC game was a 40 something and his NYG game was a 60, lol

https://mikefarrellsports.com/college/understanding-qbr-decoding-the-quarterback-rating-system#:~:text=How is QBR Calculated%3F,yards%2C touchdowns%2C and interceptions.

I just read this and there’s definitely no doing it on your own. And who really knows 

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