Has this game changed feelings about Young?

[bandu]

Bryce Young has always thrown alot of interceptions ; fumbled alot.so no it's  pretty much the same Bryce Young that we have already seen now for almost the past 2 years

...just saying

[Candler Cat]

Ceiling is winning a few games a year

Is that good enough?

[Jay Roosevelt]

14 hours ago, frankw said:

You consider losing by multiple scores and being unable to manage additional garbage time points at the end of the game without throwing a very ugly interception on his final drive not only not folding but a sign of progress?

And if you remove the 83 yard touchdown pass in the 2nd quarter he had 136 passing yards for the game.

By your standad we might as well bring in Kyle Allen and give him another look.

Compared to weeks 1 and 2? Yes, this was light years better.

I'm not 100% sold on Bryce as the guy either, but the idea that the improvement we've seen since he returned to the lineup suddenly means nothing because of one bad game is dumb.

It was a bad game by the entire team, but Bryce has had far worse performances. I don't think this fundamentally changes the trajectory of his career; it was one game. If you were sold on Bryce before this game, you probably still are. If you were convinced he wasn't the guy before, you still feel the same.

And if you're like me and are hopeful, but not convinced yet, nothing has changed either. In any case, it was still only one game.

[electro's horse]

lol if you’re still sold on Bryce after this game and are ignoring everything else because of rEaSoNs you have a delusional disorder and aren’t worth trying to talk with anymore. 

[bandu]

Bryce Young should have honestly been a 5th to 7th round draft pick to begin with taken into consideration his arm strength,size ,mobility/ ilusiviness or quickness, speed, weìght & height .& moreover that's why BY did not workout at the NFL draft combine because he already knew likewise that yes it would in fact affect his draft stock & be counterproductive to partcipate.& i feel like people who still support Bryce Youn̈g do not truly understand that you are not actually developing a  #1 overall draft pick when you take into consideration his skillset & ceiling 

 

Edited December 16, 2024 by bandu

[Gapanthersfan]

It re-reminded me that this is still a big man’s game. I still like him and his newly shown moxie, but with a very large bearing down on him, he will continue to be a fumble machine. 

speed rush from blind side is a guaranteed strip sack. 

[electro's horse]

2 hours ago, Gapanthersfan said:

It re-reminded me that this is still a big man’s game. I still like him and his newly shown moxie, but with a very large bearing down on him, he will continue to be a fumble machine. 

speed rush from blind side is a guaranteed strip sack. 

What about being lightly tapped on the shoulder while diving 

[Gapanthersfan]

26 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

What about being lightly tapped on the shoulder while diving 

That was a bad look for sure. 

[mav1234]

I don't blame people for not *giving up* on Young after this game, but realistically, this is much more similar to his career to date than the games vs KC and TB (imo his 2 best) were. That is what concerns me. This wasn't just a ho-hum meh kind of day, which tbh I was expecting (and how i'd describe NO and NYG), but it was a "wheels fall off, Young fugs the team over" kind of day (his opening drive fumble and opening half fumble absolutely ruined our chances of being competitive).  He wasn't alone in his sucking, no, but unlike, say, our OL which has played near the top of the league all year - he simply 'returned to form.'

If the lows are this low, his highs just aren't worth leaning / building a team around. Because although I really liked what he did vs TB and KC (and to an extent the Eagles, but I think we saw some cracks there too), he is ultimately severely limited in terms of physical talent and has yet to really deliver a total performance of a game.

Not saying cut him. I think he'd probably be a pretty good backup, tbh.  But let's start looking to rebuild our QB room this season and have a real competition in the offseason.

[mav1234]

31 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

What about being lightly tapped on the shoulder while diving 

I do think it was a better punch than that, but imo that's irrelevant - the dude needs to fuging slide in that circumstance.  He's not getting a first down either way. 

[electro's horse]

21 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

I do think it was a better punch than that, but imo that's irrelevant - the dude needs to fuging slide in that circumstance.  He's not getting a first down either way. 

Defender did not make contact with the ball. 

I’ve been slapped harder by women. 

Edited December 16, 2024 by electro's horse

[mav1234]

8 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Defender did not make contact with the ball. 

I’ve been slapped harder by women. 

I thought I saw his arm get punched as he was going harder.

Also says a lot more about you than the hit itself  

[MHS831]

Not saying that Bryce played well or is without blame, but the entire OL scored in the 50s or lower.  The running game shut down--and the pass protection broke down.  I watched Ickey try to block Micah Parsons without extending his arms, bending at the waist, like he was going to shoulder block him or something. You do not block him well with good technique, but how in the hell did his brain tell him, "Ick, here's what we are going to do..."  Dumbassery!!!  So when the OL prevents you from running and they suck in pass protection, it is hard to look good as a QB.  Again, Bryce need to read the pressure and hit the open WRs. That pass to Thielen when Sanders was open tells me that he is predetermining who is going to throw to--not good.

 

[mav1234]

18 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Not saying that Bryce played well or is without blame, but the entire OL scored in the 50s or lower.  The running game shut down--and the pass protection broke down.  I watched Ickey try to block Micah Parsons without extending his arms, bending at the waist, like he was going to shoulder block him or something. You do not block him well with good technique, but how in the hell did his brain tell him, "Ick, here's what we are going to do..."  Dumbassery!!!  So when the OL prevents you from running and they suck in pass protection, it is hard to look good as a QB.  Again, Bryce need to read the pressure and hit the open WRs. That pass to Thielen when Sanders was open tells me that he is predetermining who is going to throw to--not good.

 

Ehh 2 of our OL had 50-60s, which is not great comparatively but Bryce was a 39 and second lowest graded player on offense...

I do not understand why we weren't chipping edges etc, and we ran empty what seemed like far too often. I think the idea was to beat the rush with quick routes but man, several times rushers were practically unblocked...

Second bold is my concern. He did not read the field at all. He honestly was not reading the field well vs the Eagles either, tho he still was playing much better there.