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Jaycee Horn to the Pro Bowl


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On 1/2/2025 at 1:09 PM, CRA said:

I'd like to see him travel before I paid him.  He takes way too many snaps on meh WRs. In all honesty, the only game I can really recall him really on top notch WR most of a game (that also had good QB play)....Horn was really not that good.  Mahomes/Hopkins had him looking bad. 

This represents an informed and logical look at Horn. He is a good to very good CB, but this makes him elite--I do not see it.  When he is matched or outmatched, he is very grabby and gets penalties.  He is not a bad CB and teams have thrown away from him a lot, but they also throw to their #1 WR when he is on the Panthers' #2 CB....This recognition will be taken to the negotiating table for his contract and he will demand elite money when he is often injured, often penalized, and often covering the second/third WRs.  I am not celebrating this because it costs the team money.  I don't care about trophies and ribbons for players who are already making more in one week than most do all year playing a game.  The Panthers are no better if he is all-pro or not. 

I will add that some of this is not Horn's fault; perhaps he is being misused and Evero is not getting the most out of him.  He had a heck of a year in run support, fwiw.  As I said on his draft day, and I was born in Columbia while my father was playing for the Gamecocks so I am actually biased for Horn, I would have picked Surtain over him.

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On 1/2/2025 at 1:05 PM, Waldo said:

Play him next year to prove he can stay healthy before an extension. Either he is worth franchise money or he isn't, if he can stay healthy 1 more year than this year wasn't the fluke from a health perspective.  

I'd also love to see him with a better DC. Curious what a Saleh could do with him.

I am starting to think that we will move on from Evero---just a hunch--but there is some feeling that everyone was given a vote of confidence for this season--we shall see.  I can argue in Evero's defense as well as argue for his termination.

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On 1/2/2025 at 5:56 PM, Pejorative Miscreant said:

You should write to the guys playing and coaching for a paycheck and explain that to them.  I’m sure they will understand the rationale. 

If you want to lose the locker room, let the players feel that you are trying to lose to replace them.  You are exactly right--

Losing games makes it tougher to lure free agents, so the losses hurt you in that area, helps you in the draft--but that is the GM viewpoint only.  Losing is like a cold, dark rain cloud that covers the practice field all week long.  It is in the backs of everyone's mind.  It is like going to work every day thinking you could be fired or demoted or that your closest teammates and friend are temporary. Losing is cancer.  Losing today keeps that rain cloud over you all off season.  A win, however, gives you more hope and encouragement. 

It is easy to make it about numbers--winning is a culture.  Today we will see the Giants, Patriots, Titans, and Panthers (etc.) fighting for their jobs. I think the Panthers are going to win and will draft ninth overall. 

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