One huge problem w/ the QB situation

[Mr. Scot]

isn't he the same QB coach who got his hands on the last "pro style ready" QB out of Notre Dame?

There's a decent gap between Quinn's accuracy and Claussen's.

[Delhommey]

And Rip had a UDFA QB from Oregon St starting, too. Still different players, different situation.

We've got 4 great guys to help Clausen develop: Williams, Stewart, Gross and Otah.

[CRA]

The mentor argument holds water when you have a great vet QB leading from the front and then he goes and the young guy takes over. But I don't really see how having some washed up 40 year old with a clipboard is gonna show Moore and Clausen how to lead 50+ men. Now how to put the work in is something else, Vinny T did that for D Will, which just shows it needs to be a vet doesn't have to be a vet at the same position.

i disagree, I think Vinny showed exactly what that vet QB is important on a roster....even if his career is over. Vinny knows exactly how important the leadership aspect is for a QB....and how the QB is the leader of the entire team. That is why he reached out to anyone....QBs and players like DWill. QB is unique. Vinny knew the role of a NFL QB....he lived it and did it. Matt Moore doesn't have the work in and time in to know and be that guy yet......washed up guys are often brought in for reasons having little to do w/ there current physical abilities on a team.

[CRA]

He had a UDFA QB from Oregon St starting. Different players. Different situation.

We've got 4 great guys to help Clausen develop: Williams, Stewart, Gross and Otah.

Williams, Stewart, Gross, Utah, Steve Smith, Otah, etc. can't teach Clausen how to be a leader from the QB position of an NFL team. They can teach him what being an NFL quarterback is about.....plain and simple.

[CRA]

There's a decent gap between Quinn's accuracy and Claussen's.

i'm not talknig about physical ability or skill, I was talking about there was no one to show Clausen how to be a NFL QB. People pointed out our QB coach was enough......there was little to show Quinn was growing into that position and what it required at this level (accuracy and physical elements not being discussed).

[bleys]

i'm not talknig about physical ability or skill, I was talking about there was no one to show Clausen how to be a NFL QB. People pointed out our QB coach was enough......there was little to show Quinn was growing into that position and what it required at this level (accuracy and physical elements not being discussed).

can't agree.. the QB Coach is getting paid to teach QBs.. a vet QB would only serve as a "role model" and just an extra avenue to ask questions.. Nothing a QB coach will not already be doing and nothing will be gained that the QB coach isn't getting paid to already do..

not so sure this is as big of a deal as your making it out to be.

I don't think Quinn is relevant to your example.. that has more do with a guy who sucks at QB lol

[Squirrel]

To a lesser degree than most would though. Davidson is a disciple of the Weis system, so there's a good chance Claussen already knows a lot of the terminology and philosophy associated with our offense.

It's been said you have to be a borderline PhD to be able to handle the Weis playbook. Claussen handled it well in college, so he's better prepared than a lot of guys would be.

The tougher job will be someone making sure he knows how to act like an adult.

True but you see Fox giving him full rein in his first year? He will have to earn Fox's trust before he will let him throw freely.

[Delhommey]

Oh you mean a vet to learn from like how Flacco had Troy Smith's infinite knowledge and experience to learn from over the years.

[CRA]

can't agree.. the QB Coach is getting paid to teach QBs.. a vet QB would only serve as a "role model" and just an extra avenue to ask questions.. Nothing a QB coach will not already be doing and nothing will be gained that the QB coach isn't getting paid to already do..

not so sure this is as big of a deal as your making it out to be.

I don't think Quinn is relevant to your example.. that has more do with a guy who sucks at QB lol

a QB coach's job is too to show him how to play QB. Not how to be an NFL QB. I think too many people are blowing off how important it is to have that role model......especially for a player who has proven to be clueless in many of the aspects of that position and role as Clausen. Clausen is a kid. A clueless one at that. You guys are giving the QB coach too much credit and responsiblity.

There is a reason Jake Delhomme was able to step in by a leader here......it was b/c he bounced around and learned a lot behind guys and how to be a NFL QB. Physical talent is something you see lots of at QB entering the NFL.....it is the other stuff that determines if guys succeed at this level or not at the QB position. Not having a player to help Clausen will hurt him. Moore at least had Jake...but Moore doesn't have the experience to educate anyone....b/c he hasn't been there and done it.

Just seems like no matter the subject, people around here want to paint everything as cool.....the Pike pick was bad. Ensuring a vet who had been there and done it not being on this roster next season is bad thing. We can argue the degrees to how bad that is....but it is a bad thing.

[Big Ed]

Sanchez & Ryan had a lot of vet QB input .

Keeping Jake as a Vet to learn from as someone said ,would never work.

First bad game fans and some players would want Jake starting and the locker room would be upside down from that point on

Bugler is toast and want even play this season ,unless some Q B 's go down to injury.

Panther's finaly have a Q B coach that can coach

Let em do his thang

[CRA]

Oh you mean a vet to learn from like how Flacco had Troy Smith's infinite knowledge and experience to learn from over the years.

he at least went through camps and had Kyle Boller working with him who had 38 NFL starts w/ a team. Doesn't matter how good of a QB the vet is....there is a lot to share about what works, what doesn't, and what you need to do from the QB position.....having talent ain't enough in the NFL.

[CatMan72]

I agree, there is coaching a teammate can do that a coach cannot. Would be nice to put Cantwell or Pike on the PS and bring in a vet to mentor these young guys.

[Cyberjag]

I think this is the sort of thing that's way down the list of items that the coaches are worried about. If Clausen does seem like he needs an adult around, there's no shortage of vet QBs out there that we can sign who can give him at least as much insight as Chris Redman gave to Matt Ryan.

Redman's available, BTW. Should we sign him?

[AceMan]

Sanchez & Ryan had a lot of vet QB input .

Keeping Jake as a Vet to learn from as someone said ,would never work.

First bad game fans and some players would want Jake starting and the locker room would be upside down from that point on

Bugler is toast and want even play this season ,unless some Q B 's go down to injury.

Panther's finaly have a Q B coach that can coach

Let em do his thang

Fans would NEVER want Jake to start again...

Matt Moore will really have to step up his game in the offseason because as weird as it seems, I like Clausen has the advantage.