Running Teams in the NFL

[Seamonk]

Clayton has probably the worst opinion to note on ESPN. He's flip flopped way too many times to be even taken seriously anymore. I think ESPN needs to quit hiring people who elevate controversy and get more people who actually have an opinion worth something.

Secondly, I don't think any team has ever really /stopped/ our running game unless we've just abandoned it because we're down too many points.

[ed bell]

IN 2008 we were very good in converting 3rd and short but last year we weren't nearly as good. Especially to the right side which is why we got rid of Vincent.

I can't find any stats for "3rd and short" last year, let alone for the right side.....but by my recollection watching every game, I do not recall having 3rd and short causing my blood pressure to rise very often at all....what is your source for that overall drop-off in 2009 and specifically the right side? I know the play calling stats are one thing, but I couldn't find anything that showed a "success rate" for 3rd and short for the Panthers. Help me out...

[CRA]

Clayton has probably the worst opinion to note on ESPN. He's flip flopped way too many times to be even taken seriously anymore. I think ESPN needs to quit hiring people who elevate controversy and get more people who actually have an opinion worth something.

Secondly, I don't think any team has ever really /stopped/ our running game unless we've just abandoned it because we're down too many points.

only team the past two seasons I can remember that really bottled the run game up was the Redskins. Outside of that Foxy is the only one who limited how effective they could be by opting for the Jake Delhomme Air Show even when the RBs were rolling.

[MadHatter]

Any team who is one dimensional on offense is only good for 8-9 wins. That goes for passing teams and rushing teams.

The Saints were the leagues best passing team for the past 4-5 years. However, it was not until last season that they had true success. The difference....they finally established a running game.

Balance is truly the key.

[panthers55]

I can't find any stats for "3rd and short" last year, let alone for the right side.....but by my recollection watching every game, I do not recall having 3rd and short causing my blood pressure to rise very often at all....what is your source for that overall drop-off in 2009 and specifically the right side? I know the play calling stats are one thing, but I couldn't find anything that showed a "success rate" for 3rd and short for the Panthers. Help me out...

Here is one that is pretty good.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

2009- We had a power success of 67% on 3rd or 4th and short. Compare that to Miami which had a 79% success. Average for everyone was 64%. Overall we were ranked 17th.

The chart below compares adjusted line yards by position. We varied from Left tackle (Gross) ranked 5th to right tackle which was 27th.

2008- We had a power success of 79%, compared to an overall average across the NfL of 67%. The middle and right side was our strength that year.

[scpanther22]

Here is one that is pretty good.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

2009- We had a power success of 67% on 3rd or 4th and short. Compare that to Miami which had a 79% success. Average for everyone was 64%. Overall we were ranked 17th.

The chart below compares adjusted line yards by position. We varied from Left tackle (Gross) ranked 5th to right tackle which was 27th.

2008- We had a power success of 79%, compared to an overall average across the NfL of 67%. The middle and right side was our strength that year.

I guess the stats say different

But I remember us being not such a good 3rd down conversion team.

[panthers55]

I guess the stats say different

But I remember us being not such a good 3rd down conversion team.

In 2007 we were awful. In 2008 we were one of the best and last year we were a little above average.

[bigjohn]

I believe we have the potential to be really good offensively with our stud running game if we'll use our tight ends. If Moore and King/Barn/Rosario can develop some chemistry, they should be able to convert enough 3rd downs in the short passing game (I still think 3rd down conversion rates are the most overlooked stat in football). Throw in a few big plays to Smitty and there's some real potential there.

We pop off so many long runs because teams stack the box against us. Throw 9 in the box and you may stop us short, but if we do break it there's not much left to chase down our backs.

Damn I'm ready for Saturday night.