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Will Armanti Edwards beat out Bruce Nelson as our worst 2nd round pick ever?

charlottenian

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The 2010 3rd wasn't ours originally. We traded a 2011 2nd for it. 2011 2nd = 2010 3rd. Thus Edwards is a 2nd.

Brown is our 1st round pick this year. Good to see him getting 2 sacks.

I guess, he was still a third round pick but I see whatur saying, please dont say he is a second round pick, it makes me sick thinking what we gave up for him knowing we could have gotten him probably in the 5th and that so far he cant do anything we wanted him to do. I realize he is in the middle of trying to change posistions but we should have made sure he could do it before investing a high future pick for him:confused:

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I was referring to Armanti Edwards. He's not catching the punts well, and he's taking his lumps learning a new position. It shows in the preseason and it will show in the regular season. Game planning doesn't make that better.

Jarrett wasn't getting open but he was showing good hands. That will probably continue in the regular season.

In these terms of executing on the individual level the pre-season is going to be an indicator. On a team level is where it's not as accurate because of the game planning.

Neither Jake Delhomme nor Matt Moore had a pre-season touchdown last year. Hunter Cantwell had the team's only pre-season TD. I don't see the correlation there.

I think that if you take anything out of pre-season, you take that you're seeing the problems now so they can be addressed as needed. If that means putting Cpt. back at PR, or finding another Mark Fields-type guy, then that's what it means.

Also, Jarrett has never shown much of anything. Ever. So how can you reason that it "will probably continue in the regular season?"

There's just some logical errors I can't get past. Some unsupported extrapolation goins ons.

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I'm saying in terms of individual execution you can look at the pre-season for a guide. No amount of game planning will make Edwards better at punt returns. If he's dropping punts on the 4th preseason game he's probably going to drop punts week 1.

In individual match-ups Jarrett didn't look impressive. He showed good hands but didn't get separation. The coaches can't really game plan to make him get better separation.

Brown showed he can get it done against starters which is huge. It doesn't mean he'll be productive, but it is a big step in his development.

It's a rational and logical decision for somebody to extrapolate individual execution to the regular season.

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I'm saying in terms of individual execution you can look at the pre-season for a guide. No amount of game planning will make Edwards better at punt returns. If he's dropping punts on the 4th preseason game he's probably going to drop punts week 1.

In individual match-ups Jarrett didn't look impressive. He showed good hands but didn't get separation. The coaches can't really game plan to make him get better separation.

Brown showed he can get it done against starters which is huge. It doesn't mean he'll be productive, but it is a big step in his development.

It's a rational and logical decision for somebody to extrapolate individual execution to the regular season.

If pre-season has taught me anything over the last 10 years, it's that you can't extrapolate any pre-season performance into the regular season. Especially with guys who aren't proven veterans. There have been soo many guys through the years that have been practice and pre-season pro bowlers, but show NOTHING in the regular season. Drew Carter, anyone?

And we haven't even gotten to the 4th pre-season game, yet. So can we wait to decide that Edwards is dropping punts then?

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Bruce Nelson was a good player, he had a disease that wasn't diagnosed by any team in the league before the draft and it forced him to retire before he ever had the opportunity to play a down. It's ignorant to call that a bad pick. It was bad luck, but based on the information at hand it wasn't a bad pick at all. And when there are guys like Shawn King, Chris Terry, and Eric Shelton to choose from, going after Nelson just shows how little thought was behind the post.

And it's just as ignorant to say that Edwards is a bad pick based off of his second pre-season game. Everyone connected to the Panthers has said that he's a project, and the earliest he will be ready will probably be mid-season. And you're not going to get him ready without putting him in game situations. That's what the preseason is for, the games don't count and you can see how people will react when the action is real.

Look for Edwards to be fielding punts against the Titans. And I don't expect him to make the same mistakes again. I expect him to make some, and they may result in turnovers, but he'll chase down the short ones and will secure the catch before he starts running.

Of course, that will probably result in threads with the intellectual vigor of this one calling him out for being too tentative, but that's entertainment. :)

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