Nick Scott weighing contract offer to return to Carolina

[Waldo]

Classic example of an easier spot they should have tried to improve with someone else. Pure ST player and should never see the field on D. Dude isn't a safety but a special teamer so he shouldn't even count as a safety. Might as well call him a kicker, it would be closer to his actual duties.

[Khyber53]

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

Classic example of an easier spot they should have tried to improve with someone else. Pure ST player and should never see the field on D. Dude isn't a safety but a special teamer so he shouldn't even count as a safety. Might as well call him a kicker, it would be closer to his actual duties.

We need ST'ers, too. We weren't great there either. And rather than wash out the entire bottom half of the roster as might be called for, perhaps it's good to hang on to a few who were ST'ers from last year just to keep lingo continuity going.

Here's hoping he was one of the good ones. Best of luck to him.

[Waldo]

29 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

We need ST'ers, too. We weren't great there either. And rather than wash out the entire bottom half of the roster as might be called for, perhaps it's good to hang on to a few who were ST'ers from last year just to keep lingo continuity going.

Here's hoping he was one of the good ones. Best of luck to him.

That's fine just stop calling him a safety tho. He isn't  and should never be on the field for the D. That's why I called him a special teamer. He should never be a safety on the D so just stop calling him one. He also shouldn't get a safety spot on the roster. If he can't make it as a ST aces then he shouldn't make the final roster.

 

[MHS831]

3 hours ago, Waldo said:

Classic example of an easier spot they should have tried to improve with someone else. Pure ST player and should never see the field on D. Dude isn't a safety but a special teamer so he shouldn't even count as a safety. Might as well call him a kicker, it would be closer to his actual duties.

.  I was watching a Colt podcast and they were discussing whether the Colts should re-sign Blackmon.  One guy called him a good special teamer and the other corrected him.  Missed 14% of his tackles.  Made 6 plays.  They added that he was injured and played hurt and had a better 2023.

Edited March 24 by MHS831

[Khyber53]

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

That's fine just stop calling him a safety tho. He isn't  and should never be on the field for the D. That's why I called him a special teamer. He should never be a safety on the D so just stop calling him one. He also shouldn't get a safety spot on the roster. If he can't make it as a ST aces then he shouldn't make the final roster.

 

Dang, who knew you felt so strongly about this guy?

[Waldo]

13 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

.  I was watching a Colt podcast and they were discussing whether the Colts should re-sign Blackmon.  One guy called him a good special teamer and the other corrected him.  Missed 14% of his tackles.  Made 6 plays.  They added that he was injured and played hurt and had a better 2023.

It's funny because of the 2 he was the much better rated safety in 2024 even hurt. Is this guy JJ Jensen good or is it a spot you stick a Blackmon into who was almost rated at 70 by pff as a safety? A special teams ace should be really good at what they do to carry a roster spot for a non starter with so little value elsewhere.

Edited March 24 by Waldo

[Waldo]

4 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Dang, who knew you felt so strongly about this guy?

I'm tired of watching dead weight and losers. This team hasn't won much in years. The feel good BS is dead to me at this point. Just calling it what it is.

[MHS831]

On 3/22/2025 at 1:34 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

Surely veteran minimum, right?

This question usually precedes news that we've signed some bum for like 4 or 5 million per year.

30 minutes ago, Waldo said:

I'm tired of watching dead weight and losers. This team hasn't won much in years. The feel good BS is dead to me at this point. Just calling it what it is.

Like Ian Thomas....I just think this way--if your defense sucks in ways they compare it to the worst defense of all time, and this guy had a chance to crack that lineup and could not--and he is 29--what are we doing?

I am going to call it camp fodder so I can sleep.

Edited March 24 by MHS831

[Waldo]

22 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Like Ian Thomas....I just think this way--if your defense sucks in ways they compare it to the worst defense of all time, and this guy had a chance to crack that lineup and could not--and he is 29--what are we doing?

I am going to call it camp fodder so I can sleep.

It's not being mean for the fun of bring mean. Safety is also a giant hole in a D that was as bad as you described. We have 1 safety and I don't think he is very good anyways but that's their jobs to lose and not mine. Seems like a roster spot that needs more chances at hitting on meaningful help that is much needed.

[Khyber53]

4 hours ago, Waldo said:

I'm tired of watching dead weight and losers. This team hasn't won much in years. The feel good BS is dead to me at this point. Just calling it what it is.

Oh, yeah, I agree. But really there's been a lot of dead wood further up the roster that has bothered me more. That bottom of the roster, ST-hopeful guys -- yanno, I'm going to pull for them and hope they get a chance to shine if for just a moment and find a bit of immortality, if not worldwide, at least in the towns they'll call home eventually.

It's the guys with six figures in their yearly salary that do nothing more than keep the bench from flying up in the air or kinda slow down a pass rusher for a play or two to give a tackle a breather that tick me off. I'm not saying names, but we all know those guys.

 

[Waldo]

49 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Oh, yeah, I agree. But really there's been a lot of dead wood further up the roster that has bothered me more. That bottom of the roster, ST-hopeful guys -- yanno, I'm going to pull for them and hope they get a chance to shine if for just a moment and find a bit of immortality, if not worldwide, at least in the towns they'll call home eventually.

It's the guys with six figures in their yearly salary that do nothing more than keep the bench from flying up in the air or kinda slow down a pass rusher for a play or two to give a tackle a breather that tick me off. I'm not saying names, but we all know those guys.

 

All the dead wood bother me regardless on a team after this many losing seasons. He is 29 and his best days are behind him making great money even as a special teams guy. There is not 1 player in this leuge making poverty wages so I only give a crap about the overpaid and the ones in the way of improvement. The rest just falls into good for them to me.

Dude was a part of a historically bad D and is taking a spot at a position where they desperately need people to step up. I'll give Richardson the 'I hope he improves this year' but I just hope Scott gets beat out by a rookie or another 90 man roster signing. He is just another Ian Thomas IMO and it's a bad sign him and Sly were brought back in more than a 90 man roster capacity.

[Basbear]

4 hours ago, Waldo said:

It's not being mean for the fun of bring mean. Safety is also a giant hole in a D that was as bad as you described. We have 1 safety and I don't think he is very good anyways but that's their jobs to lose and not mine. Seems like a roster spot that needs more chances at hitting on meaningful help that is much needed.

 

Brother Im no Nick Scott fan or nothing. I feel its near impossible to judge players when the defense by some medics was the worst in NFL history. Have you ever been in a job where every-level had incompetence?? I started a job within the first week- I could not trust the drivers, the dock, or the machinist. I found myself looking after and re-checking other peoples jobs, well guess what- My management job suffered. I told the bosses son, they could not remain in business and as soon as I started I put in my two weeks. 1.5 years later after long time contracts died, they closed shop.

Arob and many others (DL)had to play more snaps than normal. They were playing PS LBs signed form other teams in the late weeks. That's a recipe for disaster, especially for safety group.

Colin Jones was able to play on those Panthers defenses and he was not a NFL DB, but the remaining 10 on the field made it so that 11th guy didn't matter. Half the 2024 defense group was not the right material, it makes everyone look bad. 

 I mean the out comes for Scott are the following- never plays a down on defense or is cut during TC. Limit the harm, lols!!

[Waldo]

37 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 

Brother Im no Nick Scott fan or nothing. I feel its near impossible to judge players when the defense by some medics was the worst in NFL history. Have you ever been in a job where every-level had incompetence?? I started a job within the first week- I could not trust the drivers, the dock, or the machinist. I found myself looking after and re-checking other peoples jobs, well guess what- My management job suffered. I told the bosses son, they could not remain in business and as soon as I started I put in my two weeks. 1.5 years later after long time contracts died, they closed shop.

Arob and many others (DL)had to play more snaps than normal. They were playing PS LBs signed form other teams in the late weeks. That's a recipe for disaster, especially for safety group.

Colin Jones was able to play on those Panthers defenses and he was not a NFL DB, but the remaining 10 on the field made it so that 11th guy didn't matter. Half the 2024 defense group was not the right material, it makes everyone look bad. 

 I mean the out comes for Scott are the following- never plays a down on defense or is cut during TC. Limit the harm, lols!!

Or he is one of the reasons we were the worst in the league? It's not the 70s so why not churn the roster in that horrific of a situation? When said player is 29 and absolutely what he is professionally. He played in 10 games and started 4. That is garbage outside of a 90 man roster. 

Jones was a gunner so he was an ace before the changes, not a good one but Ron had many weaknesses. He was also a disaster when they fugged up and had to play him. I didn't really think he was worth it vs a great returner but we also had ST droughts when he was around and took Ron to get fired to jettison that dead weight.

I'm not making excuses for that lot. Most of the guys Evero brought in looked bad. Jewell, Sly, this guy whatever. Brown was one player and a hit when he went down but that shouldn't have exposed how bad the rest were to thay degree.

Even by 90 man standards they could do better.

[Basbear]

3 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Or he is one of the reasons we were the worst in the league? It's not the 70s so why not churn the roster in that horrific of a situation? When said player is 29 and absolutely what he is professionally. He played in 10 games and started 4. That is garbage outside of a 90 man roster. 

Jones was a gunner so he was an ace before the changes, not a good one but Ron had many weaknesses. He was also a disaster when they fugged up and had to play him. I didn't really think he was worth it vs a great returner but we also had ST droughts when he was around and took Ron to get fired to jettison that dead weight.

I'm not making excuses for that lot. Most of the guys Evero brought in looked bad. Jewell, Sly, this guy whatever. Brown was one player and a hit when he went down but that shouldn't have exposed how bad the rest were to thay degree.

Even by 90 man standards they could do better.

 

Yes, Evero is clearly on notice. I thought he would be a HC by now, he's lucky the Panthers didn't fire him after this history bad year. Scott did not fix nor help the defense, Im not going to defend that. I still think he could easily be cut and this is much about nothing. I felt your way about brenton bersin and I learn to blame the scouts, coaches, the GM for not bring in better players to keep the Scotts/bersin types off the roster. There's still time for that, it wouldn't take much for a UDFA safety to out-play Scott... Brandt and Dan got to upgrade this roster.