Fox: Clausen "more than likely" to start

[Brooklyn Bully]

PantherFanForlife?

Or Panthers55. They should both go picket outside the stadium until Matt starts again.

They'd never post here again.

[Happy Panther]

He was in one of the moods he gets in from time to time, blowing off any suggestions of specific areas of weaknesses.

Asked about the offensive line problems, Fox said that "unlike the media," he wasn't getting into specific areas of concern.

We are now reporting on Fox's moods.

Hey Foxy it is your job to address weaknesses when you are the coach of the worst team in the NFL

Can't wait for some new life at the coaching spot

[CRA]

At least Fox is doing something right... definitely need to keep JC in there.

Fox needs to not just start at QB but committ that someone IS the starting QB.

He yanked Moore to early. He can't change that. Now he just needs to keep from making another mistake. Clausen should be the guy from here on out and we take our lumps.

[LinvilleGorge]

Fox needs to not just start at QB but committ that someone IS the starting QB.

He yanked Moore to early. He can't change that. Now he just needs to keep from making another mistake. Clausen should be the guy from here on out and we take our lumps.

Not sure we yanked Moore too early. The guy really did look dreadful. However, you're right that now that we've gone to Clausen we need to stick with him. When you put a rookie QB out there, you have to realize there are going to be some rough patches. Once you go to him, you've got to let him take his lumps and learn.

[Darth Biscuit]

Fox needs to not just start at QB but committ that someone IS the starting QB.

He yanked Moore to early. He can't change that. Now he just needs to keep from making another mistake. Clausen should be the guy from here on out and we take our lumps.

I agree... we can argue as to whether Moore was pulled too early or not, but now that Clausen is in, the only legit reason I can see to take him out is if the O-line gets worse and he starts getting killed.

[panthers55]

Or Panthers55. They should both go picket outside the stadium until Matt starts again.

They'd never post here again.

If you are going to reference me then get it straight. I said start Clausen in New Orleans. He needs more of a chance to see what he can do on the road in a hostile environment. Plus he needs to look at film and make some major adjustments in his reads and ability to throw the ball down the field. I am looking forward to seeing whether his talk with Smitty this week will help him look for Steve more often this week.

The only thing I am saying is that I wouldn't commit to him all year unless he shows me he is the future. Right now he has shown me nothing more than Moore has at this point. Suckage is still suckage no matter who does it or which guy has more or less excuses for doing it. Scoring 7 points in a game against a team that gave up 38 to New England is embarassing.

[panthers55]

I agree... we can argue as to whether Moore was pulled too early or not, but now that Clausen is in, the only legit reason I can see to take him out is if the O-line gets worse and he starts getting killed.

How about if he continues to struggle and can't score points. After all I don't want to lose every game this year. At least Moore has shown he could score points and get the ball to Smitty. If Clausen can't do that without picks, he is David Carr all over again.

I am fine with his playing for now but he needs to improve and show promise. And most of all get the ball to our best playmaker.

[PanthersPhan18]

If you are going to reference me then get it straight. I said start Clausen in New Orleans. He needs more of a chance to see what he can do on the road in a hostile environment. Plus he needs to look at film and make some major adjustments in his reads and ability to throw the ball down the field. I am looking forward to seeing whether his talk with Smitty this week will help him look for Steve more often this week.

The only thing I am saying is that I wouldn't commit to him all year unless he shows me he is the future. Right now he has shown me nothing more than Moore has at this point. Suckage is still suckage no matter who does it or which guy has more or less excuses for doing it. Scoring 7 points in a game against a team that gave up 38 to New England is embarassing.

Most qbs don't usually show they're the future in just 1 season. Think of a rookie starting pitcher in baseball. Had the coaching staff quit on Randy Johnson, Maddux, Roy Halladay, etc after their rookie year, then they would never know what they had in those guys. It's the same thing for a rookie qb in the NFL.

[CRA]

Not sure we yanked Moore too early. The guy really did look dreadful. However, you're right that now that we've gone to Clausen we need to stick with him. When you put a rookie QB out there, you have to realize there are going to be some rough patches. Once you go to him, you've got to let him take his lumps and learn.

sure we did. Based on Moore's performance heading into this season. He played one bad game and got a concussion. Fox then broke his rule and played him the following week yanking him in a game still winnable.

So ultimately, Fox gave the Moore experiment 1 full game. That is it. Moore is young and has shown promise. 1 bad game and Fox decided all the promise and 6-2 play prior was irrelevant. Not sure how 1 full game is a fair shot for a young QB who showed promise in the NFL.

[Darth Biscuit]

How about if he continues to struggle and can't score points. After all I don't want to lose every game this year. At least Moore has shown he could score points and get the ball to Smitty. If Clausen can't do that without picks, he is David Carr all over again.

I am fine with his playing for now but he needs to improve and show promise. And most of all get the ball to our best playmaker.

Meh, does it really matter? Obviously I want them to win, but the goal of winning is to get to the playoffs... pretty sure that's not happenin' this year unless something really drastic changes. I'm torn I guess... I don't want to ruin his confidence by pulling him or by getting him killed and losing every game. Just have to see I guess.

[Jpjr]

If you are going to reference me then get it straight. I said start Clausen in New Orleans. He needs more of a chance to see what he can do on the road in a hostile environment. Plus he needs to look at film and make some major adjustments in his reads and ability to throw the ball down the field. I am looking forward to seeing whether his talk with Smitty this week will help him look for Steve more often this week.

The only thing I am saying is that I wouldn't commit to him all year unless he shows me he is the future. Right now he has shown me nothing more than Moore has at this point. Suckage is still suckage no matter who does it or which guy has more or less excuses for doing it. Scoring 7 points in a game against a team that gave up 38 to New England is embarassing.

I actually agree with you more often than I don't. This is no exception.

One thing I will say though is that Palmer and Clausen had almost identical poor passer ratings, both with two turnovers. Taking QB play off the table in that regard, one team managed to win 20-7. Just confirms that this team is more than a better QB performance away from winning football games.

[panthers55]

Most qbs don't usually show they're the future in just 1 season. Think of a rookie starting pitcher in baseball. Had the coaching staff quit on Randy Johnson, Maddux, Roy Halladay, etc after their rookie year, then they would never know what they had in those guys. It's the same thing for a rookie qb in the NFL.

But why would we continue to go with Clausen if he shows no improvement after bailing on Moore who is a proven winner who struggled his first 2 games. The assumption is that Clausen is the future and that just hasn't been proven.

Remember that in baseball pitchers have had to work their way up through the minor leagues and it is fairly common for them to pull up rookies and send them back down for more seasoning if they struggle. If they came up and shined they stayed, if they didn't they got send down for more experience and brought back again for another chance.

Since the NFL doesn't have that possibility, the analogous thing would be benching him if he doesn't improve so he can watch from the sidelines and try again when he is more ready to start.

[CLTPanther]

Because Clausen has talent and potential? Moore isn't the worst QB ever, but he's just not an NFL starting QB.

[panthers55]

I actually agree with you more often than I don't. This is no exception.

One thing I will say though is that Palmer and Clausen had almost identical poor passer ratings, both with two turnovers. Taking QB play off the table in that regard, one team managed to win 20-7. Just confirms that this team is more than a better QB performance away from winning football games.

I agree that this team needs more than just a quarterback. That is a problem but honestly not our biggest one.

As for Palmer he did suck in the first half. Our defense gave the game away in the second half as much as anything. There were 2 blown assignments on the last drive which accounted for most of the yards. We will never win a game if we let them score 20 or more points a game.