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ladypanther

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Kings of the draft. As long as they continue to dominate on draft day, they'll keep being great on the field. Wish Hurney could learn a thing or 2 from them. We have given up too many picks for certain players on the team. This is one of the many reasons why we are in the hole we are in now.

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Yes, the Patriots are arguably the best run organization in football.

They traded Seymaour away last year in his "contract year" for a #1 from the Raiders. We should have done the same with Peppers and now we face that same issue with DWill.

They traded a 3rd round pick to the Panthers so the fuging idiot Hurney could take Armanti Edwards. This pick will be like 35th overall in the draft.

Poorly run teams like the Raiders and Panthers are feasted on by the Patriots.

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Yes, the Patriots are arguably the best run organization in football.

They traded Seymaour away last year in his "contract year" for a #1 from the Raiders. We should have done the same with Peppers and now we face that same issue with DWill.

They traded a 3rd round pick to the Panthers so the fuging idiot Hurney could take Armanti Edwards. This pick will be like 35th overall in the draft.

Poorly run teams like the Raiders and Panthers are feasted on by the Patriots.

Well in fairness to the Raiders, Seymour is playing very well for them and they are having one of their more successful seasons in some years.

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Yes, the Patriots are arguably the best run organization in football.

They traded Seymaour away last year in his "contract year" for a #1 from the Raiders. We should have done the same with Peppers and now we face that same issue with DWill.

They traded a 3rd round pick to the Panthers so the fuging idiot Hurney could take Armanti Edwards. This pick will be like 35th overall in the draft.

Poorly run teams like the Raiders and Panthers are feasted on by the Patriots.

This X 1000

What I don't get is that the Patriots have been following this formula for years now. Shipping out aging players on the last year of their contracts and trading current draft picks for higher future picks, but yet other teams don't adopt this same philosophy. I mean, they do this year after year and it works year after year but nobody else catches on and tries to mimic it?

Instead the Panthers basically do the opposite, clinging onto our players until they have zero trade value and/or walk for nothing. Trading future 1st rounders for 2nd round picks... sending an early 2nd for a late 3rd to pick up a huge project from a 1-AA school.

Hurney has been pretty good at picking out talent when they do pick, but really, can't they see that this type of approach is going to really set you back. To the point where EVERY pick has to be a homerun or you're screwing yourself..... ughhhhhh... oh well, enough bitching......

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Yes, the Patriots are arguably the best run organization in football.

They traded Seymaour away last year in his "contract year" for a #1 from the Raiders. We should have done the same with Peppers and now we face that same issue with DWill.

They traded a 3rd round pick to the Panthers so the fuging idiot Hurney could take Armanti Edwards. This pick will be like 35th overall in the draft.

Poorly run teams like the Raiders and Panthers are feasted on by the Patriots.

As long as the Raiders keep winning, getting NE to take the 1 in 11 instead of 10 won't be too bad of a thing , since the Raiders look to be picking somewhere in the teens next year. And once they get the picks they don't mind trading for future considerations - getting a 1 from SF so they could trade up and get Staley and giving up a pick this year, but getting a pick one round higher the next year than they gave up in return. (see: Hester, Edwards deals)

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