Trade bait

[MHS831]

People get angry when you make suggestions about giving up a player or two to fill a need. They want to give away crap and get diamonds back. I wanted to start a thread where we mention players we might trade to fill needs, specifically QB, but it doesn't have to be. We will be weaker in one area to get stronger in another. Think of it as redistributing and equalizing the talent. Also remember that talent at the QB position, where talent is rare, is > talent at any other position.

Here is the list of Panthers we could trade. Some we may have to re-sign or tag, but you get the idea. Remember, in a trade, you have to give up talent to get talent!!

Mike Goodson: A KR, multi-purpose back with breakaway skills. In our new offense he may be even more valuable, but his string of 100 yard games gave him some value. The 2 fumbles didn't help him, but I think he has some serious trade value.

Dan Connor has the ability to start for many NFL teams, if he could just stay healthy. I would hate to lose him because he is great depth and special teams, but his value does us no good on the pine.

Deangelo WilliamsEasy people, easy. First read these points. In response to folks who say, "We need 4 rbs. We are going to an 18-game schedule." Here are some facts: Deangelo is awesome, which gives him value, of course. He has about 2 years left (RBs rarely hit 30 on top--he is 28). He was used HEAVILY at Memphis and has not finished a season since 2008. How will he play 18 games? The only way is if you use him less. If we have to use him less to keep him healthy, then his value to us decreases.

Steve Smith: I would not because what he can give us over the next 2 years is more than the player we get will give us in a career. However, we are young and rebuilding. We owe it to Smith to put him somewhere he can regain his form. He may want the trade, we may want him away from the youth. Either way, a team ready to win now might jump on Smith. Again, I would rather he give us all he has and retires here, but I suggest a trade for reasons other than the talent we would lose vs. get.

Charles Godfrey is (I think) an alternate for the Pro Bowl and I thought he was inconsistent this year. Jordan Pugh is good and waiting behing Godfrey, but a pro bowl free safety might have some value. Pugh has earned a place. Godfrey got a lot of picks this year (5 ?), but a few were thrown right to him. Go figure. Take advantage of his good fortune and consider using him as bait to get a good QB here.

I think that a trade is the only way we get a decent QB--the draft sucks at QB, the free agent market will as well. Will we make a trade? Hell no, so don't get worried about this too much. Just for sake of conversation.

[PanthersGuy28]

I'd be fine with all except Godfrey, he is just gonna get better at this point.

[MHS831]

I'd be fine with all except Godfrey, he is just gonna get better at this point.

I didn't like it too much either. However, if they wanted Godfrey and Connor for Kevin Kolb, bye CG. THe only reason I added Godfrey is because I think Pugh is going to be very good if he ever gets to play.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

If someone actually thinks Godfrey is a pro-bowl caliber player and wants to trade us a high pick for him then well lol at that team.

[brandon_87]

Williams, Connor YES!!!

rest... NO!!!

Goodson/Stewart would be awesome if were to trade Williams, and just having 89 out on the field makes the D respect the Pass no matter how shitty our QB play is. The only one i'm not sure about is Godfrey, at times he looks good, and at times you have to wonder what he is doing, but for the value a trade would create for Williams and Connor, I would trade them

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Connor/Goodson/Godfrey most likely won't get you enough to make it worth your while.

I said we should move DWill to a desperate team like Green Bay before the trade deadline. You could really bend them over in a trade at that point but now, trying to work out a sign-and-trade, coming off two seasons on IR, his value is much much lower.

Same thing with Smitty, I would have tried to move him a year ago, but now he'll be lucky to net you a 4th.

This team just waits too long to try to move anyone.

[scarface]

What QB?

I'd trade Connor or Goodson if we can resign D.Will or move Beason back to MLB.

Godfrey, D.Will or 89? Only if we had no choice like they threatened a holdout or we would lose them to FA for nothing.

[Ruff]

I'd trade Connor in a New York Minute, if it got us a high 3rd Round pick.

[brandon_87]

Connor/Goodson/Godfrey most likely won't get you enough to make it worth your while.

I said we should move DWill to a desperate team like Green Bay before the trade deadline. You could really bend them over in a trade at that point but now, trying to work out a sign-and-trade, coming off two seasons on IR, his value is much much lower.

Same thing with Smitty, I would have tried to move him a year ago, but now he'll be lucky to net you a 4th.

This team just waits too long to try to move anyone.

careful, I said that a few months back and all the Madden fantasy traders jumped me saying he is worth anywhere from a 1st to a 3rd... what a joke:lurk5:

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Good rule of thumb for people on this board:

Say what number round pick you could get in a trade for a player.

Add 2-3 to that number and that's really what you could get.

[Ruff]

I would take a 4th rounder for Smitty... But it would have to be on Draft day, and I'd have to see who's still available.

(Especially if we had already taken AJ Green.)

[bleys]

depends on what each player brings in real value.. but no one should be scared of trading a player if the value is there..

whether it's there or not is another question... value to the team -vs- what we can get...

[nosuchthingasapanther]

i don't see goodson as trade bait.

despite his ball security issues, i believe his return skills/potential has guaranteed him a spot on the team.

[ItsPantone278]

Smith or Williams. Only way it'd be anywhere near worth it.