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Kiper just made a good point on Mike & Mike


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He even said that alot of HoFers had terrible rookie years and team need to let rookie QBs grown and lower expectations. \

Clausen falls into this give him time to grow. It takes 3 years before you know if a QB is a bust or not.

No. Here is the difference.

Kiper is talking about Manning, Aikman, etc. and how QBs have "bad" seasons and grow into the QB position.....and that is true. They did have "bad" seasons and grew into great QBs. However, during the "bad" rookie year they showed glimpses of greatness and showed why a team should work with them to grow.

Clausen showed zero glimpses.....and that has everything to do w/ Jimmy. On top of showing zero glimpses he lacks the basic physical attributes you want in a QB. Blame for that can't be put on a decent team around him and decent coach.....like so many like to do.

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What is so insightful about that?

You thinking of Clausen by chance?

I laugh at people who gave up on Clausen after just a few games. Come on people. He may never be a starting QB, but he had no chance. On a completely dysfunctional team as a rookie?

I guess these are the same people that saw Moore as a savior.

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Yea, I'm all for giving him another chance...as long as we have a proven vet to mentor him and step in if/when Jimmah fails. Orton is only 28, lots of football left in him. McNabb has another season or two. However, if Luck were available this year, or if we're in position to get him next year, you don't skip on talent that highly thought of just cuz you wanna give another young guy enough of a chance... I DON'T think (and REALLY hope we don't) we should reach because we're SO desperate for a QB. Just sign a FA, focus on Green, O-line, and DT (maybe CB if Marshall leaves) with the draft and free agency and we'll see where the chips have fallen this time next year and reassess our need for a QB then.

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He even said that alot of HoFers had terrible rookie years and team need to let rookie QBs grown and lower expectations. \

Clausen falls into this give him time to grow. It takes 3 years before you know if a QB is a bust or not.

First, Zod. Now, you too, Squirrel? All this empathy for Clausen all of a sudden!

J/K

I totally agree. It's about time someone called all the ignorant mofos out!

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What is so insightful about that?

You thinking of Clausen by chance?

I laugh at people who gave up on Clausen after just a few games. Come on people. He may never be a starting QB, but he had no chance. On a completely dysfunctional team as a rookie?

I guess these are the same people that saw Moore as a savior.

team wasn't dysfuntional. QB play was pathetic.

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Stop being whiny bitches and stop whining about your starting QB who was a rookie and played under horrible coaching staff.

coaching staff wasn't horrible.

They went 12-4 w/ average QB play in 08. When they got average QB play in 09 they finished the season 4-1.

Coaching staff was far from great......but are also were far from bad. QB play was pathetic......when it is that bad (as we have seen at times in multiple seasons like 07, 09, 10 there simply isn't much you can do put get your teeth kicked in most days).

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meanwhile, as we give him 2 more years to show that he is as bad as he was last year, the panthers are going to be sitting at the bottom of the NFCS for years. i hope y'all are content being bottom dwellers while we give clausen a "fair" chance.

way to keep that bar low.

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meanwhile, as we give him 2 more years to show that he is as bad as he was last year, the panthers are going to be sitting at the bottom of the NFCS for years. i hope y'all are content being bottom dwellers while we give clausen a "fair" chance.

way to keep that bar low.

No we need to bring in a Vet and let him play. Clausen needs to learn this year. Then next season give him a chance.

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