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Vince Young a possibility/opportunity for us perhaps???

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I have been a proponent of bringing VY to Carolina because I try to see good in people and believe a change of environment could do wonders. Look at Brayton, though not nearly the headcase, he still had issues. Carolina brought him in and he has been quite productive for us. That being said and knowing our FO... I realize VY coming hear is about 1 chance in 5.

However if Gradkowski is a free agent. Then I would put him at the top of the list. Over Vince Young. This guy is a gamer. The majority of Oakland's wins during the JaMarcus Russell era came from this guy.

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Better then the QB we got now.

None of our QBs will ever be as good, entertaining, or relevant as VY. They can study all the film they want, they can sign every autograph after practice, they can be the classiest guys on the planet. We can try to simplify the playbooks and their jobs as much as we want, wont make a difference. They can put gel in their hair to look cool. But none of them will ever win or perform at the level VY does. They just dont have that "it". I cant see any of our QBs getting any interest in a FA market as "starters" outside of Carolina, VY wont have such problems.

As for Vince, I say the same thing about him I said about Luck, why would he want to come here? Why does he need us? Do we really believe no team is gonna get at him that has more going for itself than we do? No good QB wants to come to Carolina. NONE. Zip. Zilch. Zero. None of them want to be associated with such a losing franchise like ours that is the epitome of FAIL at the QB position. We're stuck with the usual boring scrubs we always feature until we get new ownership and have an image overhaul.

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I'm not a fan of Vince Young. We'd be better off losing with Clausen next season and getting Andrew Luck with the #1 pick. I feel like it's worth it to throw away a season or two for the chance to draft a franchise QB that could lead us back to the Super Bowl.

If this is the case, I would encourage Panther fans not to go to any games next season or buy any merchandise. If the goal is to tank 2011 in hopes of getting Luck (after he's already made it clear he doesnt want to play for us), Panther fans should just skip the season and do something else. If the object is to throw games, why should fans waste money next season? Save your money, hell JR is! :cornut:

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None of our QBs will ever be as good, entertaining, or relevant as VY. They can study all the film they want, they can sign every autograph after practice, they can be the classiest guys on the planet. We can try to simplify the playbooks and their jobs as much as we want, wont make a difference. They can put gel in their hair to look cool. But none of them will ever win or perform at the level VY does. They just dont have that "it". I cant see any of our QBs getting any interest in a FA market as "starters" outside of Carolina, VY wont have such problems.

As for Vince, I say the same thing about him I said about Luck, why would he want to come here? Why does he need us? Do we really believe no team is gonna get at him that has more going for itself than we do? No good QB wants to come to Carolina. NONE. Zip. Zilch. Zero. None of them want to be associated with such a losing franchise like ours that is the epitome of FAIL at the QB position. We're stuck with the usual boring scrubs we always feature until we get new ownership and have an image overhaul.

No can deny his physical skills but that is not the only skill set that is needed especially for a QB. As for why would he want to come here? How many teams are going to hire a veteran who has a chance to start? He would have a good chance to do that here.

With that being said, I don't know that he would provide us with a mature veteran who can mentor younger guys. And that is what we will be looking for in a vet.

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None of our QBs will ever be as good, entertaining, or relevant as VY. They can study all the film they want, they can sign every autograph after practice, they can be the classiest guys on the planet. We can try to simplify the playbooks and their jobs as much as we want, wont make a difference. They can put gel in their hair to look cool. But none of them will ever win or perform at the level VY does. They just dont have that "it". I cant see any of our QBs getting any interest in a FA market as "starters" outside of Carolina, VY wont have such problems.

As for Vince, I say the same thing about him I said about Luck, why would he want to come here? Why does he need us? Do we really believe no team is gonna get at him that has more going for itself than we do? No good QB wants to come to Carolina. NONE. Zip. Zilch. Zero. None of them want to be associated with such a losing franchise like ours that is the epitome of FAIL at the QB position. We're stuck with the usual boring scrubs we always feature until we get new ownership and have an image overhaul.

Hes just another QB with great talent but is a headcase....what VY brings in talent and baggage is a wash with what we have now... we still wont have a QB.

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If this is the case, I would encourage Panther fans not to go to any games next season or buy any merchandise. If the goal is to tank 2011 in hopes of getting Luck (after he's already made it clear he doesnt want to play for us), Panther fans should just skip the season and do something else. If the object is to throw games, why should fans waste money next season? Save your money, hell JR is! :cornut:

Andrew Luck never said he didn't want to play for the Panthers. He went back to Stanford to get his degree. If you would seriously rather keep spending your money to go watch a mediocre team lead by a mediocre QB fine by me do it. In my opinion it's worth the pain on a few terrible seasons to enjoy being a Super Bowl contender year in and year out. Look at the San Antonio Spurs they tanked a season just to get Tim Duncan and now they've got what 4 NBA Championships with him?

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Andrew Luck never said he didn't want to play for the Panthers. He went back to Stanford to get his degree. If you would seriously rather keep spending your money to go watch a mediocre team lead by a mediocre QB fine by me do it. In my opinion it's worth the pain on a few terrible seasons to enjoy being a Super Bowl contender year in and year out. Look at the San Antonio Spurs they tanked a season just to get Tim Duncan and now they've got what 4 NBA Championships with him?

You're new, so I'll clue you in. Don't bother with that one. He's a Falcon troll.

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Hes just another QB with great talent but is a headcase....what VY brings in talent and baggage is a wash with what we have now... we still wont have a QB.

VY would perform much better than the guys we have out there right now. And judging by how quickly our "leader" Beason has lobbied for him, I'd say our guys would believe in him more than they do Clausen or Moore. Right now our QBs are a handicap to their teammates and hold this team back a great deal. Thats a big burden that takes its toll over time.

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Andrew Luck never said he didn't want to play for the Panthers. He went back to Stanford to get his degree. If you would seriously rather keep spending your money to go watch a mediocre team lead by a mediocre QB fine by me do it. In my opinion it's worth the pain on a few terrible seasons to enjoy being a Super Bowl contender year in and year out. Look at the San Antonio Spurs they tanked a season just to get Tim Duncan and now they've got what 4 NBA Championships with him?

Exactly....I want to win a title, not have our best case scenario be 9-7 with a first round exit.

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You think this has been explored?? I dont. The Panthers are just getting their coaching staff in place. Boys or not - Rivera, Hurney, Chud, our QB coach etc should talk to and meet with VY themselves.

There is one BIG thing that makes sense into looking at VY and that is the prospects of another season with no QB. Or having to trade another future early draft pick, or one of our RB for either Orton or McNabb or Colb (of which I dont think either will be traded by their teams anyway) or bringing back Matt Moore as some are suggesting :eek:

Dont get me wrong, I am not saying sign the guy this instant BUT I just hope the Panthers are not just excluding him because of this "character" stuff. THIS TEAM NEEDS A QB THAT CAN WIN GAMES!!!! :cool:

And what happens the first time he had a bad game, gets vociferously booed and throws a tantrum? Then do we start worrying about his character?

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