Interesting stat that could defend Clausen.

[DaveThePanther2008]

Lets have a little faith in the new regime. Mike Shula has been around the game for a very long time. I believe he will be just what the doctor ordered for Clausen. Charlie Weis, a good offensive mind, stood by Clausen when he was in the draft. That should give us some idea that 2010 was just a bad year for Clausen, poor coaching and youth.

I am hoping he can be the QB we drafted him for.

[hepcat]

When you watch good QB's play, and I'm really thinking of guys like Kurt Warner, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, etc, they make their reads quickly and get the ball out. The Saints-Seahawks game highlighted an instant replay of Drew Brees scanning the field...the guy doesn't blink and gets the ball out FAST. Clausen would make his reads, but wouldn't throw the ball! And when he did, he would check down. He was captain check down this year. I'd watch him and you could tell at that split second if he didn't throw, he was getting sacked.

I think the best question we can ask about Clausen is WHY he was getting sacked and throwing to his check down receivers so frequently. Was the offense he was placed in not giving him enough freedom and chances to make throws downfield? Was he not making the right reads, or making them too slowly? Offensive line not giving him enough time? Could he just not be confident enough in his arm to make the throws? Were the receivers not getting open? Or is Clausen just another NFL QB destined for failure because he was overhyped coming out of college?

[ickmule]

Please stop with this "fix Clausen" poo. The guy will never be more than average at best and his skill set tells me that average is a stretch for him. We need another QB and we need one bad if we ever expect to have even an 8-8 season.

[MadHatter]

finally you've found a stat completely unrelated to clausen's play

bravo

So you think that the # of sacks given up has NOTHING to do with the play of the QB? Seriously?

[MadHatter]

When you watch good QB's play, and I'm really thinking of guys like Kurt Warner, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, etc, they make their reads quickly and get the ball out. The Saints-Seahawks game highlighted an instant replay of Drew Brees scanning the field...the guy doesn't blink and gets the ball out FAST. Clausen would make his reads, but wouldn't throw the ball! And when he did, he would check down. He was captain check down this year. I'd watch him and you could tell at that split second if he didn't throw, he was getting sacked.

I think the best question we can ask about Clausen is WHY he was getting sacked and throwing to his check down receivers so frequently. Was the offense he was placed in not giving him enough freedom and chances to make throws downfield? Was he not making the right reads, or making them too slowly? Offensive line not giving him enough time? Could he just not be confident enough in his arm to make the throws? Were the receivers not getting open? Or is Clausen just another NFL QB destined for failure because he was overhyped coming out of college?

You are asking all of the right questions. Problem is that we do not know the answers to them YET.

Clausen showed that he is not ready to step in. But with time, can he?

We need to rent a vet for a year or two and let him sit and learn....ala Rogers. Then, a qualified and accurate assessment of his abilities an dfuture can be made.

[Urrymonster]

Want to know an actually interesting stat? He was credited with being responsible for just 3 sacks and 2 pressures all season (39 sacks, 30 hits, 94 pressures).

He didn't walk into pressure, or hold on to the ball too long. He actually was pretty decent at getting the ball out before things collapsed on him.

The thing he struggled with was picking up blitzes pre snap which gave teams a HUGE amount of un-blocked pressures, hits and sacks. This is the area he needs to improve on, which is usually the eaiest thing to work on...

[panthers55]

Want to know an actually interesting stat? He was credited with being responsible for just 3 sacks and 2 pressures all season (39 sacks, 30 hits, 94 pressures).

He didn't walk into pressure, or hold on to the ball too long. He actually was pretty decent at getting the ball out before things collapsed on him.

The thing he struggled with was picking up blitzes pre snap which gave teams a HUGE amount of un-blocked pressures, hits and sacks. This is the area he needs to improve on, which is usually the eaiest thing to work on...

That stat is totally subjective based on a guy watching the play and deciding whose fault it was. As long as he doesn't hold the ball and run around into a sack they won't put it on him. But he did run into pressure, he did hold the ball too long and as you said he failed to throw it to a hot read numerous times. He could have easily thrown it away and not gotten sacked or changed the play for maximum protection which he didn't. Anyone can see his play this way and know that he was his own worse enemy and failed to make the necessary reads.

The question to me is why are we rehashing this on every post and thread. This is history and has little bearing on the future. What he did last year won't matter once they start playing this year.

[OchoNueve]

Jury is still out on Clausen. No QB could have thrived with our offense last season. I don't see us going 8-8 last year with Rogers, Brees, Manning, Roethlisburger, or Vick.

[PantherFanForLife]

We all knew this. Well some of us. That's why I have been beating the O-line drum all season long but no one hears. O-line has been juts as big a problem as QB. When Moore was playing it was evident. People thought Clausen would do better, and it showed he did worse. He instead just started throwing short, check-down passes. NO ONE can throw the ball when being pressured like that and when lying on their back.

Fix the O-line and QB play improves. Only then Clausen might have a chance to learn how to read defenses and find players. When both your QB have concussions in the same season that should tell you something. They are getting hit way too hard and the defenses are not being slowed down at all.

[CRA]

Jury is still out on Clausen. No QB could have thrived with our offense last season. I don't see us going 8-8 last year with Rogers, Brees, Manning, Roethlisburger, or Vick.

Vick went to the playoffs w/ a garbage OL.

Big Ben has gone to the postseason w/ arguably the worst OL in the NFL before.

Manning can get double digit wins w/ poor OL play and a no run game.

I agree the jury is still out......but the only evidence that has been presented to the court is Clausen ain't ready to see a NFL field.

[monstercat]

Vick went to the playoffs w/ a garbage OL.

Big Ben has gone to the postseason w/ arguably the worst OL in the NFL before.

Manning can get double digit wins w/ poor OL play and a no run game.

I agree the jury is still out......but the only evidence that has been presented to the court is Clausen ain't ready to see a NFL field.

Ridiculous comparisons. Those guys are exprienced vets who are very hard to sack, especially Vick and Big Ben. In fact, Big Ben probably holds the ball longer than any QB in the league, including Clausen, but he gets away with it by being so damn big.

[CRA]

Ridiculous comparisons. Those guys are exprienced vets who are very hard to sack, especially Vick and Big Ben. In fact, Big Ben probably holds the ball longer than any QB in the league, including Clausen, but he gets away with it by being so damn big.

hey, I didn't bring those names up. They have won w/ complete trash play on the OL....and some said they couldn't. They won with worse actually.

the bottom line, is in the past 5 yrs you would be lucky to name 2 rookies QBs who were clearly worse than Clausen (and Clausen's cast wasn't as bad as some of his defenders try to paint it).

[Punisher]

jury is still out on clausen. No qb could have thrived with our offense last season. I don't see us going 8-8 last year with rogers, brees, manning, roethlisburger, or vick.

lol

[calipanther]

Vick went to the playoffs w/ a garbage OL.

Big Ben has gone to the postseason w/ arguably the worst OL in the NFL before.

Manning can get double digit wins w/ poor OL play and a no run game.

I agree the jury is still out......but the only evidence that has been presented to the court is Clausen ain't ready to see a NFL field.

Come on man, really?! Vick roethlisberger and manning. The best running threat all time, a guy on the verge of playing in his third super bowl and Peyton manning? Compared to a rookie? Let's at least judge clausen fairly.