Who are the top QB prospects for the 2015 draft?

[LinvilleGorge]

On 11/29/2025 at 3:43 PM, kungfoodude said:

Go back to school: Sellers and Manning

Flopped on their returns to college and hurt their draft stock:

Carson Beck

Garrett Nussmeier

Drew Allar

Cade Klubnick

Sawyer Robertson

Eli Holstein

 

Any other flops in this underwhelming QB class I am missing?

 

I wouldn't say Beck hurt his stock, he just confirmed it. He is what he is. A talented diva who is super prone to idiotic mistakes and turnovers. Basically the bad version of Sam Darnold except a complete prick instead of a good guy. So... I guess Josh Rosen. LOL

[ForJimmy]

On 11/29/2025 at 3:43 PM, kungfoodude said:

Go back to school: Sellers and Manning

Flopped on their returns to college and hurt their draft stock:

Carson Beck

Garrett Nussmeier

Drew Allar

Cade Klubnick

Sawyer Robertson

Eli Holstein

 

Any other flops in this underwhelming QB class I am missing?

 

Maybe Miller Moss? He hasn’t really shown any progression. 

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

Maybe Miller Moss? He hasn’t really shown any progression. 

I don't know. I don't recall him having particularly high stock on most of the draft stuff that I personally saw. Maybe I just missed it. He definitely didn't take any next step, that's for sure.

I will add John Mateer. He was a first round radar guy after his last season at Washington St. and he really did not have a good year at OU. Hurt the team too many times with TO's and poor play.

[Jon Snow]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't know. I don't recall him having particularly high stock on most of the draft stuff that I personally saw. Maybe I just missed it. He definitely didn't take any next step, that's for sure.

I will add John Mateer. He was a first round radar guy after his last season at Washington St. and he really did not have a good year at OU. Hurt the team too many times with TO's and poor play.

What troubles me with all of these college qbs coming out is that none of them play from under center. Every single one of them play from the shotgun. College offenses basically run the exact same plays and are basic as hell with a few trick plays thrown in. Any qb you take will have to be able to work from under center and understand an nfl offense. Oh, and be able to brake down nfl defenses in the fly. Your assignment for the draft is to figure out if any of these guys coming out have any of those qualities. 

[kungfoodude]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

What troubles me with all of these college qbs coming out is that none of them play from under center. Every single one of them play from the shotgun. College offenses basically run the exact same plays and are basic as hell with a few trick plays thrown in. Any qb you take will have to be able to work from under center and understand an nfl offense. Oh, and be able to brake down nfl defenses in the fly. Your assignment for the draft is to figure out if any of these guys coming out have any of those qualities. 

I have seen a few articles over the years about the preparation lacking coming from college. Several reasons named but this was one thing I do recall in a couple.

I will say that one thing that is REALLY nice about the NIL and the transfer portal is that you are seeing players stay in school longer(more tape, more experience) and also that you see them move around and be in more than one system. 

I do think that era has really aided evaluation of prospects to some degree.

[Jon Snow]

9 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I have seen a few articles over the years about the preparation lacking coming from college. Several reasons named but this was one thing I do recall in a couple.

I will say that one thing that is REALLY nice about the NIL and the transfer portal is that you are seeing players stay in school longer(more tape, more experience) and also that you see them move around and be in more than one system. 

I do think that era has really aided evaluation of prospects to some degree.

It's made it harder to get a guy to start year 1 that's for sure. You really need to draft a guy a year or 2 before you need him. But unlike college you can only keep so many on the roster to work with. If he cannot unseat your current backup it creates a situation where you hope he clears wavers so you can put him on the ps long enough to replace your backup. We can afford ro dump our backup but we need real competition to replace him. I'm not sure we would carry 3 qb's on the roster full time with the 3rd qb with being draft pick intent on replacing qb2. But they should after going through the past 3 seasons. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Jon Snow

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

It's made it harder to get a guy to start year 1 that's for sure. You really need to draft a guy a year or 2 before you need him. But unlike college you can only keep so many on the roster to work with. If he cannot unseat your current backup it creates a situation where you hope he clears wavers so you can put him on the ps long enough to replace your backup. We can afford ro dump our backup but we need real competition to replace him. I'm not sure we would carry 2 qb's on the roster full time with the 3rd qb with being draft pick intent on replacing qb2. But they should after going through the past 3 seasons. 

I think we are just also in an era that QB's are being drafted far too high because they mean so much for the future of every franchise. Lots of guys overdrafted based on desperation in the past 10+ years.

For us specifically, I think it's time to start investing draft capital more regularly into QB's. Maybe not premium draft capital but 4th to 7th rounders for sure. Set up a steady stream of potential backup QB's to attempt to develop. I also think that for next year at the bare minimum, that we do need to be keeping 3 QB's on the roster.

For any team that has an uncertain future at QB, you should have more options on hand, IMO. That would be my philosophy. A healthy mix of veterans and younger guys with high potential. 

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I think we are just also in an era that QB's are being drafted far too high because they mean so much for the future of every franchise. Lots of guys overdrafted based on desperation in the past 10+ years.

For us specifically, I think it's time to start investing draft capital more regularly into QB's. Maybe not premium draft capital but 4th to 7th rounders for sure. Set up a steady stream of potential backup QB's to attempt to develop. I also think that for next year at the bare minimum, that we do need to be keeping 3 QB's on the roster.

For any team that has an uncertain future at QB, you should have more options on hand, IMO. That would be my philosophy. A healthy mix of veterans and younger guys with high potential. 

I agree with that. This team is qb poor and they need a better plan at the position than what is going on now.