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1 hour ago, Newbie said:

We draft a lot of those guys. Our front office has a type they like to draft. Big, fast, etc. and we don’t pay attention to skill because we always think we can coach athletes up to be football players. It hasn’t worked out once and normally our un athletic UDFAs out play the guys we draft. 
 

The only exception we made was drafting Bryce Young. It was the only time we ignored physical attributes. You can’t make all of this up. 

Yeah, it’s mind blowing.  Don’t get me wrong, the combine is fun.  It’s cool to see guys put up these crazy, superhuman numbers, but honestly, the tape doesn’t lie.  The times where the combine measurements meets the on-field production, that’s rare, and those guys are guaranteed stars.  In my observations over the years, it seems there are a lot more guys who don’t measure the best or well at all, but they’re just damn good at football.  NGL, it’s why I’m high in Scourton and Princely, bc they don’t have the craziest athletic measurements, but when you watch them, they have those innate football movements, and they look faster and stronger than combine measurements would indicate.  ATP in my life, like I said, if I have to choose between on-field appearance and production versus crazy raw athletic scores with potential, give me the football player every time.  Hopefully Dan has learned this now.

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1 hour ago, KSpan said:

Agreed. IMO it's the Rhule effect and obsession with RAS, or even its predecessor, the 'Al Davis obsession with speed'. It's a college-type approach that leads to a ton of misses. Hurney did some of it too but seemed to be more along the lines of thinking guys could easily switch positions.

Probably does have something to do with that. Lot of the scouting staff has been here since the Rhule hire. 

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10 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

So much of football is about how quickly a player reads and reacts, especially on defense.  You can run a 4.4 40, but if it takes you .15 seconds to process a play, you are far from special.

 

I was thinking about the LB from Penn St we drafted a few years ago, I think under Rhule with some of these posts.  And boy, I thought, Penn St?  LB?  Crazy high RAS?  This dude is gonna be a problem.  And he was straight trash.

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21 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

I was thinking about the LB from Penn St we drafted a few years ago, I think under Rhule with some of these posts.  And boy, I thought, Penn St?  LB?  Crazy high RAS?  This dude is gonna be a problem.  And he was straight trash.

Brandon smith, super athletic with great size but couldn't diagnose offense and had no instint whatsoever

sounds kinda familiar

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