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5 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

i dont know about every team but he definitely called Arizona and they turned him down to draft Dan Williams which is just two bad teams doing bad things.

Yeah, he was definitely trying to trade back up into the 1st to draft Clausen. Imagine trading away the #1 overall pick to draft Jimmy fuging Clausen. LOL 

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, he was definitely trying to trade back up into the 1st to draft Clausen. Imagine trading away the #1 overall pick to draft Jimmy fuging Clausen. LOL 

The Panthers did that last year with the picks to trade up for Bryce Young. They gave what turned out to be the  #1 pick in the 2024 draft to Chicago. What a terrible decision Tepper made to push this trade up on his team for the 2023 draft. It will take years to recover as we are witnessing. 

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25 minutes ago, thennek said:

The Panthers did that last year with the picks to trade up for Bryce Young. They gave what turned out to be the  #1 pick in the 2024 draft to Chicago. What a terrible decision Tepper made to push this trade up on his team for the 2023 draft. It will take years to recover as we are witnessing. 

Yeah, for sure. But as awful as Bryce is he's still better than Clausen. I could see Bryce hanging around in the league as a career backup. Clausen wasn't even close to being good enough to do that. He's on the short list of worst guys to start games at QB in the NFL. Bryce is on the short list of worst multi-year starters. There's levels to this suck game. LOL

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1 hour ago, thennek said:

The Panthers did that last year with the picks to trade up for Bryce Young. They gave what turned out to be the  #1 pick in the 2024 draft to Chicago. What a terrible decision Tepper made to push this trade up on his team for the 2023 draft. It will take years to recover as we are witnessing. 

Many of us were begging the universe not to let that trade happen and once it did not to draft Young. It was totally foreseeable. That is the real shame of it, it wasn’t ever a decent gamble.  
 

ps we would have been better served spending it all on hookers and blow. 

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2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, for sure. But as awful as Bryce is he's still better than Clausen. I could see Bryce hanging around in the league as a career backup. Clausen wasn't even close to being good enough to do that. He's on the short list of worst guys to start games at QB in the NFL. Bryce is on the short list of worst multi-year starters. There's levels to this suck game. LOL

Yes,

But at least with Clausen he was one and done, and the Panthers did not spend valuable resources around him to pretend like he was the answer. Panthers only spent a high 2nd on him, and missed. 
Since the BY trade-up, the Panthers have made bad decision after another. Almost as if to justify their bad trade-up decision. 

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2 hours ago, strato said:

We practically are living that right now. 

It’s different, and luckily not as bad as that hypothetical would have been. 

cam newton was immediately the exact opposite of everything Bryce has been. Caleb hasn’t touched that. 

it doesn’t matter. I think if we’d had rolled it back with darnold and co they’re not drafting anywhere near the top three qbs. 

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31 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

It’s different, and luckily not as bad as that hypothetical would have been. 

cam newton was immediately the exact opposite of everything Bryce has been. Caleb hasn’t touched that. 

it doesn’t matter. I think if we’d had rolled it back with darnold and co they’re not drafting anywhere near the top three qbs. 

All that is true I suppose, but t his is a bad as I ever want to see it. 
We for sure would have been better off with Darnold and keeping all of our picks. 
 

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42 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The investment in the defensive front this off-season is showing up and even the terrible LBs behind them are starting to look serviceable because of it.

The D honestly looks a couple of pieces away from being pretty damn good.

Is it investment or is it just Derrick brown being healthy 

Like people talk about princely or scourton but I barely notice them. It just looks to me like Derrick brown is blowing up the interior of offensive lines every play. 

hurney stays winning obviously. 

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25 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Is it investment or is it just Derrick brown being healthy 

Like people talk about princely or scourton but I barely notice them. It just looks to me like Derrick brown is blowing up the interior of offensive lines every play. 

hurney stays winning obviously. 

Don’t forget Bobby Brown is a huge complement to DB

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34 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Is it investment or is it just Derrick brown being healthy 

Like people talk about princely or scourton but I barely notice them. It just looks to me like Derrick brown is blowing up the interior of offensive lines every play. 

hurney stays winning obviously. 

Derek has finally gotten some help on the dline so the offense cannot afford to focus solely on him. Now you see what DB can really do.

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