Not Necessarily Panthers Related but....

[kungfoodude]

5 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

What I've taken from this is that the expectations for a 1st round qb is probably higher than it should be because in reality your are most likely to end up with someone that has the expectations of a 2nd round pick. 

Well, almost 50% of the QB's meet my criteria in that sample size(1994-2018). That's a good hit rate.

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, Basbear said:

Teams reach for QBs, in the past they did, but now more than ever. Many guys drafted in the 1st, would be 2nd round, even 3rd round guys. Just if you want one, you got to either suck, reach, or trade up for the chosen ones. 

 

I get QB is the most important thing, just I just don't believe its the only way. Panthers are a prime example, they have sacrificed many players in order to draft a maybe QB. Just build the team and I swear free agent QBs will call YOU.....Even rookies would be like " I want to play for Carolina, that defense and running game is too good". 

You can still find QBs in other ways besides the 1st round. 

Many times if you want a 2nd overall QB, just wait 4 years and he will be happy to sign for a low level QB contract. During those four years, build the roster with the best draft picks in each round. Stop making excuses about failures in the mid rounds, hire the right staff is the key. 

That's the other way of building, for sure. Build a team and they will come. Now, this is largely a "backside of career" model. Elite QB's are almost never available in their prime.

[Khaki Lackey]

11 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That's the other way of building, for sure. Build a team and they will come. Now, this is largely a "backside of career" model. Elite QB's are almost never available in their prime.

Not necessarily. QB’s looking like busts in garbage organizations and looking decent in well run organizations is becoming way more common that it used to be

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Khaki Lackey said:

Not necessarily. QB’s looking like busts in garbage organizations and looking decent in well run organizations is becoming way more common that it used to be

Those aren't elite QB's. Those are reclaimation projects, most of which have failed. 

Those should be available most offseasons given recent history.

[PNW_PantherMan]

12 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Those aren't elite QB's. Those are reclaimation projects, most of which have failed. 

Those should be available most offseasons given recent history.

Even more reason to bring one in on a 1 year deal in the offseason.  Pretty low risk move