OFFICIAL Panthers @Packers GameDay Thread

[ok2h8pep]

6 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Winning solves out problems at QB?

 

You are not wrong.  But you are also under-valuing a Win.

Every game we have won in the last three years has been despite Bryce, and he has to go.  But losing only teaches the team how to lose.

[Mr. Scot]

31 minutes ago, UAPanther said:

Hey that RG that subbed for Zavala did aight btw

Was gonna mention that

[MHS831]

35 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Final stats.  Dowdle had 28 more yards, a tenth more per average and 2 tuddys to Bryce's goose egg.  Oh, let's not forget zero turnovers to Bryce's 1. When the RB is stat dunking all over our supposed franchise QB, there needs to be a change.

The stat that jumps off the page to me:   Rico averaged more per carry that Bryce per pass.

[MHS831]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Was gonna mention that

Good point.  Solid.  We need to get rid of these 100m guards soon.

[MHS831]

I am a cade mays fan, but Corbett was solid today, imo.  I don't watch every play--I tend to snapshot the right side and then the left about 4 times a game.

[MHS831]

We found a gem in Jackson and we found another in Smith Wade.  But damn, "He He", catch the ball and take it to the house.   You could have moon-walked that into the end zone.  Lose one of your gloves. 

OK, I am out of ammo.

 

[tukafan21]

16 minutes ago, ok2h8pep said:

You are not wrong.  But you are also under-valuing a Win.

Every game we have won in the last three years has been despite Bryce, and he has to go.  But losing only teaches the team how to lose.

Totally fair, but I also have not one time complained about winning these games, not once.  Everyone keeps saying I'm upset because it's hurting our draft stock, but I've never once said anything close to that, because it's not at all accurate.

I'm frustrated that we're 9 games into Canales' 2nd season and Bryce's 3rd, and yet we still just look like crap.

Here is a good way to explain how I'm viewing things right now, despite it being an odd way to describe it.

If someone took today's game put all the drives in a random order and removed all scoring plays (so you can't keep score yourself) and said, "watch this game and tell me what team won the game and your general feeling on each team"

Not a single person would watch the game and say that we were the better team, or even that we played well.

And THAT is my problem with the team, because we just flat out look bad still, wins aside.

And yes, I acknowledge that good teams still find ways to win when they don't look good.  But at some point you need to look good while doing so or you're never going to actually make the playoffs (or if you somehow find a way to, you're going to get crushed by a legit good team).

Too many fans keep celebrating wins because they're wins, and ignoring how we actually look on the field.

Edited 6 hours ago by tukafan21

[strato]

35 minutes ago, VintagePanther said:

Maybe i should be more like you huh and doubt and cry ? Will you be my friend then ?

Lol fug you no we can’t be friends. You pretend others are idiots while saying people were pissed that GB missed a FG. 

If you say patently idiotic and insulting poo thinking you are being some smart guy, I will call you on it. 

Edited 6 hours ago by strato

[strato]

13 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I am a cade mays fan, but Corbett was solid today, imo.  I don't watch every play--I tend to snapshot the right side and then the left about 4 times a game.

The whole patchwork mess was solid.  That is what a lead and a running game can do for them. 

Edited 6 hours ago by strato

[strato]

11 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Totally fair, but I also have not one time complained about winning these games, not once.  Everyone keeps saying I'm upset because it's hurting our draft stock, but I've never once said anything close to that, because it's not at all accurate.

I'm frustrated that we're 9 games into Canales' 2nd season and Bryce's 3rd, and yet we still just look like crap.

Here is a good way to explain how I'm viewing things right now, despite it being an odd way to describe it.

If someone took today's game put all the drives in a random order and removed all scoring plays (so you can't keep score yourself) and said, "watch this game and tell me what team won the game and your general feeling on each team"

Not a single person would watch the game and say that we were the better team, or even that we played well.

And THAT is my problem with the team, because we just flat out look bad still, wins aside.

And yes, I acknowledge that good teams still find ways to win when they don't look good.  But at some point you need to look good while doing so or you're never going to actually make the playoffs (or if you somehow find a way to, you're going to get crushed by a legit good team).

Too many fans keep celebrating wins because they're wins, and ignoring how we actually look on the field.

I k ow I said I would be quiet… 

You seem to be surprised that Bryce sucks and rediscover it every week. We know he sucks. I damn sure know he sucks.  
At some point it is nice to overlook it and focus on some good things. Like understanding that we would have lost that game the last several years and appreciating that we didn’t. 

I don’t see many people saying playoffs, yay Bryce (I know they exist). 

Edited 6 hours ago by strato

[VintagePanther]

7 minutes ago, strato said:

Lol fug you no we can’t be friends. You pretend others are idiots while saying people were pissed that GB missed a FG. 

If you say patently idiotic and insulting poo thinking you are being some smart guy, I will call you on it. 

No you felt triggered . Because hit dogs always holler . Always . Mad because we tired of hearing yall crying every week even when we winning . Need to call yourself out first buddy 

[Mr. Scot]

22 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Good point.  Solid.  We need to get rid of these 100m guards soon.

Ickey manhandled Micah Parsons 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Ickey manhandled Micah Parsons 

i counted at least 2 pancake blocks

 

[tukafan21]

Just now, strato said:

I k ow I said I would be quiet… 

You seem to be surprised that Bryce sucks and rediscover it every week. We know he sucks. I damn sure know he sucks.  
At some point it is nice to overlook it and focus on some good things. Like understanding that we would lost that game tne last several years and appreciating that we didn’t. 
I don’t see many people saying playoffs, yay Bryce (I know they exist). 

I get what you're saying, but you kinda prove my point by saying "overlook it"

Which means in reality, you agree with what I'm saying but are just upset at me for not being able to ignore it and "just be happy" because we won.

You guys see a win where we still don't look good.

I see it as a win that gives me no actual increased hope for the future because I didn't see anything that makes me think we're actually improving as a team.

I don't want to celebrate an 8-9 season where we end the season with more questions about our future than answers.

Would you extend Bryce right now?

Would you give Canales a contract extension?

I said it before the season started, I cared about one thing this year (or two depending if you view them together or separate).  I wanted to see Bryce and Canales improve at their respective jobs, and I haven't seen that out of either of them, let alone enough improvement to want to keep them around long term.

And that is why games like today frustrate me more than I can celebrate a win.  Because I don't see how they're actually setting us up for future success, and that concerns the hell out of me.