This Bryce Guy (General BY Discussion)

[Moonraker]

3 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

If Tepper is still trying to force it because of the shitty trade that is really bad. Maybe DC is still trying to hang on to his QB whisperer reputation, who knows, but it's all for nothing at this point. Give him a third phantom injury and sign someone off the couch lol. Can't be any worse and may catch a couple teams off guard. 

Nothing will change this year, we are locked into what we have. I'm sure we'll limp out with another win or two, but I am 100% out on Bryce and refuse to waste my weekend time watching any more as it's just too frustrating. We aren't a fun team to watch and  haven't been for years. It sucks, but I'm over it...this is the pre-Cam Panther era again for me..nothing to see here.

[Jackie Lee]

17 minutes ago, Moonraker said:

Nothing will change this year, we are locked into what we have. I'm sure we'll limp out with another win or two, but I am 100% out on Bryce and refuse to waste my weekend time watching any more as it's just too frustrating. We aren't a fun team to watch and  haven't been for years. It sucks, but I'm over it...this is the pre-Cam Panther era again for me..nothing to see here.

Yeah I'm luckily working every Sunday for the rest of the year, and I'd bet every single interview Dan or Dave does post season is going to about addressing the QB position lol. Even the TV crew that was trying to lick BY's nuts today gave up by halftime...

[Jackie Lee]

 

[MRenshaw]

@AceBoogie Where you at? You need to come defend your QB!

[Donald LaFell]

5 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

If Tepper is still trying to force it because of the shitty trade that is really bad. Maybe DC is still trying to hang on to his QB whisperer reputation, who knows, but it's all for nothing at this point. Give him a third phantom injury and sign someone off the couch lol. Can't be any worse and may catch a couple teams off guard. 

When DC was speaking about Tetairoa he explicitly mentioned that first rounders need to be physically gifted. There’s no way he would have wanted Bryce. Tepper has to let him pick his own guy. 

[ProcessBlue2]

From Mike Kaye at the Observer

[amcoolio]

14 hours ago, electro's horse said:

No one is going to take Bryce as a backup.

you need your backup to be able to come in and run the same offense. 

The panthers have spent multiple years crafting an entire personnel group and offense around his limitations.

San Fran or La or whomever aren’t going to bring in a backup qb with no upside they can’t even complete the route tree.

dudes done after Carolina 

You're letting your hatred for him cloud your judgement, you can't say with 100% certainty that Bryce can't play anywhere else, especially since everyone here said the same about Darnold and Mayfield and are now backtracking to say "well they had the skills all along"... absolutely nobody was saying that at the time. You are forgetting that the Panthers are currently a poverty franchise that taints everything they touch, it is absolutely in the realm of possibility that Bryce sits for a few years and then looks like Mac Jones does right now. But I agree that it won't happen here, and the Panthers have to move on.

[strato]

11 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

You're letting your hatred for him cloud your judgement, you can't say with 100% certainty that Bryce can't play anywhere else, especially since everyone here said the same about Darnold and Mayfield and are now backtracking to say "well they had the skills all along"... absolutely nobody was saying that at the time. You are forgetting that the Panthers are currently a poverty franchise that taints everything they touch, it is absolutely in the realm of possibility that Bryce sits for a few years and then looks like Mac Jones does right now. But I agree that it won't happen here, and the Panthers have to move on.

Mayfield and Darnold should be exempt from Bryce comparisons. They have the tools and physical measurables that he lacks. 
It is apples to oranges.  

Bryce has no comps really, if he is to succeed he will be the first of his line to do it. 
The closest comp I have been able to find is Flutie who was practically identical in height and weight, but with a much stronger arm and I am pretty sure more mobility also, but different era. The arm advantage can’t really be argued, so the comp breaks down. 

I don’t know how saying that is hate. It is just reality. Not that you specifically said it was hate but the general theme is if you don’t believe in his abilities and say so, it is hate. 
I will tell you, I have hated 90% of the last three seasons with him at QB but if he did well, and could sustain that, I don’t think I would snipe at him. 

[Panthering]

I cannot imagine watching Bryce all year in practice as a teammate, must be brutal watching the ducks he throws and how hard everything is with a qb his size.

[amcoolio]

2 minutes ago, strato said:

Mayfield and Darnold should be exempt from Bryce comparisons. They have the tools and physical measurables that he lacks. 
It is apples to oranges.  

Bryce has no comps really, if he is to succeed he will be the first of his line to do it. 
The closest comp I have been able to find is Flutie who was practically identical in height and weight, but with a much stronger arm and I am pretty sure more mobility also, but different era. The arm advantage can’t really be argued, so the comp breaks down. 

I don’t know how saying that is hate. It is just reality. Not that you specifically said it was hate but the general theme is if you don’t believe in his abilities and say so, it is hate. 
I will tell you, I have hated 90% of the last three seasons with him at QB but if he did well, and could sustain that, I don’t think I would snipe at him. 

There has been plenty of QB's with "physical measurables" that have failed. Again, it is entirely possible Bryce is completely defeated mentally and that is causing his perceived lack of accuracy and arm strength. And that a reset somewhere else, on the bench, without pressure, fixes that. And again, the same poo was said about Darnold and Mayfield here. Its not a coincidence that both of them "rediscovered their love for football" somewhere else and are now thriving. Taking this stance that "oh but Bryce will NEVER be able to do the same" is weird because....what if he does? More backtracking by the same posters?

[strato]

5 minutes ago, Panthering said:

I cannot imagine watching Bryce all year in practice as a teammate, must be brutal watching the ducks he throws and how hard everything is with a qb his size.

 

I have seen where people say he makes great throws in practice. But then he has always looked good in shorts and with no contact.  It is a different thing when he is worried about being hit. Just a little bit more challenging.  

[strato]

2 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

There has been plenty of QB's with "physical measurables" that have failed. Again, it is entirely possible Bryce is completely defeated mentally and that is causing his perceived lack of accuracy and arm strength. And that a reset somewhere else, on the bench, without pressure, fixes that. And again, the same poo was said about Darnold and Mayfield here. Its not a coincidence that both of them "rediscovered their love for football" somewhere else and are now thriving. Taking this stance that "oh but Bryce will NEVER be able to do the same" is weird because....what if he does? More backtracking by the same posters?

The excuses, keep on coming.
None of it is related to his diminutive size and the suspect arm that requires attention to the mechanics and footwork to operate at a competitive level. 

I hope one day he proves all of us wrong so you can look better but right now you just look like a guy in denial. 

[amcoolio]

8 minutes ago, strato said:

The excuses, keep on coming.
None of it is related to his diminutive size and the suspect arm that requires attention to the mechanics and footwork to operate at a competitive level. 

I hope one day he proves all of us wrong so you can look better but right now you just look like a guy in denial. 

You twist my words to try to gain brownie points or something, not sure why you do that. Talking in absolutes will always come back to bite you in the butt. The facts are: QB's have been miserable here and improved somewhere else and cited a miserable environment in Carolina. That's just the facts. Bryce could be done in the NFL after this season, sure. He also could "rediscover his love of football" and look great somewhere else. It just is what it is with this crappy franchise.