Bryce might be the most frustrating player we've ever had.

[ncsfinest21]

16 hours ago, OneBadCat said:

Bryce obviously has this clutch gene where he can make lazer throws with the game on the line. But he struggles down to down. How much of this is a confidence problem? I refuse to believe our WR's aren't getting open consistently. You can see them open on the game tape. Cam would be undefeated with this roster. Delhomme would have some huge games in this offense. We should have won last week, and the Saints game.

I will give credit where it is due, Bryce came up huge this game. Down multiple defensive starters, Bryce and Canales had their most memorable victory together. I'm hoping this will catapult the team. But why the hell do we have to play the game so close when we have opportunities to break away with a lead?

Well the refs did it against the Rams. We were running the ball well and then the holding penalty and sack on Bryce killed that drive. It wasnt even a hold. But it definitely killed the drive. I believe it happened at the beginning of the 4th quarter. Chubba was a force that drive

Edited 1 hour ago by ncsfinest21

[CPF4LIFE]

2 hours ago, Car123 said:

Where was the running game vs Atlanta?

Once again  Atlanta...the only team he has truly balled out against. Name another team besides Atlanta where he has done that and won?? I will wait...

[PantherChris]

13 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Once again  Atlanta...the only team he has truly balled out against. Name another team besides Atlanta where he has done that and won?? I will wait...

He has like 4 "good/great"  games total in his entire career....  vs the packers last year vs the falcons last year.... *not until we were playoff eliminated*  and the last two weeks this year....  which are the only ones I even count because they actually mattered.... 

Dude is putting up similar #s to 44 year old Aaron Rodgers and people act like he's amazing i don't get it 

[Car123]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

The issue is that he has had about 3 "off games" to every 1 "on game."

That is just not sustainable for an NFL starting QB.

How many off games were between the Falcons game and yesterday’s Rams game?

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Car123 said:

How many off games were between the Falcons game and yesterday’s Rams game?

If you are attempting to make a point about ratios and ignoring the entire body of work, that is pretty illogical. 

I mean, even if you isolated for 2025 alone it would be very rough on the "good to bad" ratio. 

That's the problem with Bryce. It's way more bad than good. 

It's impossible to build a successful, sustainable franchise on that foundation. 

I will ask you this, if you are the GM, are you signing him to that 5th year option? Are you extending him to a top 10-15 QB contract this offseason?

[Car123]

2 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

He has like 4 "good/great"  games total in his entire career....  vs the packers last year vs the falcons last year.... *not until we were playoff eliminated*  and the last two weeks this year....  which are the only ones I even count because they actually mattered.... 

Dude is putting up similar #s to 44 year old Aaron Rodgers and people act like he's amazing i don't get it 

Stop lying.

vs Packers 2023

vs Cardinals 2024

vs Falcons 2024

vs Cardinals 2025

vs Dolphins 2025

vs Cowboys 2025

vs Falcons 2025

vs Rams 2025

[Car123]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

If you are attempting to make a point about ratios and ignoring the entire body of work, that is pretty illogical. 

I mean, even if you isolated for 2025 alone it would be very rough on the "good to bad" ratio. 

That's the problem with Bryce. It's way more bad than good. 

It's impossible to build a successful, sustainable franchise on that foundation. 

I will ask you this, if you are the GM, are you signing him to that 5th year option? Are you extending him to a top 10-15 QB contract this offseason?

Bryce has had 3 bad games this season. The rest have been below average, average, good, great, exceptional.

[CBDellinger]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

If you are attempting to make a point about ratios and ignoring the entire body of work, that is pretty illogical. 

I mean, even if you isolated for 2025 alone it would be very rough on the "good to bad" ratio. 

That's the problem with Bryce. It's way more bad than good. 

It's impossible to build a successful, sustainable franchise on that foundation. 

I will ask you this, if you are the GM, are you signing him to that 5th year option? Are you extending him to a top 10-15 QB contract this offseason?

5th depends on last 4 games but i think it'd give them some flexibility of when they can sign or select a new qb.  if they do it wont be as tragic as some are making it out to be.

extension prob not unless he balls out and we make a playoff run this year.

[Car123]

30 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Once again  Atlanta...the only team he has truly balled out against. Name another team besides Atlanta where he has done that and won?? I will wait...

What a dumb argument. While we’re at it, we should discredit Kurt Warner because Marshall Faulk was a great running back. Let’s also discredit John Elway because Terrell Davis was damn good.

Edited 58 minutes ago by Car123

[PantherChris]

8 minutes ago, Car123 said:

Stop lying.

vs Packers 2023 mentioned this one any games were we are already eliminated dont matter no pressure.

vs Cardinals 2024 see above 

vs Falcons 2024 see above 

vs Cardinals 2025 loss 

vs Dolphins 2025  mediocre under 200 yards and a pick

vs Cowboys 2025 mediocre under 200 yards 

vs Falcons 2025 owns the falcons impressive game mired by hideous 4th down throw away and sitting on his ass like a clown.

vs Rams 2025 Mid at best barely 200 yards 3 tds but one on a screen and two on blow 4th down coverages. 

Lmfoa  FIFY and counting any games as good that occure after the team is playoff eliminated is low brow.

Edited 57 minutes ago by PantherChris

[PantherChris]

2 minutes ago, Car123 said:

What a dumb argument. While we’re at it, we should discredit Kurt Warner because Marshall Faulk was a great running back. Let’s also discredit John Elway because Terrell Davis was damn good.

The FACT is the Atlanta game is the only GAME hes ever had that was truly impressive that actually mattered meaning the Panthers were not playoff eliminated and there was REAL pressure to win.... of course he pooed the bed vs the worst team in the NFL the week before and made two horrible 4th down plays.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, CBDellinger said:

5th depends on last 4 games but i think it'd give them some flexibility of when they can sign or select a new qb.  if they do it wont be as tragic as some are making it out to be.

extension prob not unless he balls out and we make a playoff run this year.

IMO, I wouldn't ink that 5th year option unless he DOES ball out these last few games. I won't be furious if it does happen but I do think it will be a mistake when it's looked at in hindsight. 

I just think you have to crack the top 25 starting QB's in the NFL to even be considered for that 5th year option. Does it set up the franchise for a tough financial decision a year earlier if he balls out in 2026? Yes. But would that situation differ if it was a tough 2026 on the 4th year and a baller 2027 on the 5th?

Ultimately, the body of work has conclusively and without almost any question shown he is not a franchise QB. It's generally unwise to consider massively expensive and long term commitments if that isn't the case. Otherwise you end up in the Trevor Lawrence scenario. 

It's going to be a very interesting last 4 games and an even more interesting offseason on the Bryce front. I really don't have a read on what direction they plan to go. I have suspicions but not an actual read.

[PantherChris]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

IMO, I wouldn't ink that 5th year option unless he DOES ball out these last few games. I won't be furious if it does happen but I do think it will be a mistake when it's looked at in hindsight. 

I just think you have to crack the top 25 starting QB's in the NFL to even be considered for that 5th year option. Does it set up the franchise for a tough financial decision a year earlier if he balls out in 2026? Yes. But would that situation differ if it was a tough 2026 on the 4th year and a baller 2027 on the 5th?

Ultimately, the body of work has conclusively and without almost any question shown he is not a franchise QB. It's generally unwise to consider massively expensive and long term commitments if that isn't the case. Otherwise you end up in the Trevor Lawrence scenario. 

It's going to be a very interesting last 4 games and an even more interesting offseason on the Bryce front. I really don't have a read on what direction they plan to go. I have suspicions but not an actual read.

He would need to average at least 250 passing 3 tds and record 4 wins for me to want them to pick up that option.  Of course I know if we don't he will somehow turn into a Brees/Mahomes combo next year and put up 5k and 40 tds lol

[Car123]

1 minute ago, PantherChris said:

Lmfoa 

Some of you are too infatuated with passing yards. It might be a shock to you, but you don’t need to throw for 200 yards or more to have a good game. 200  yards is not some magical cut off point - you have to look at the entire picture. He was very efficient in those games. Some would rather have Bryce throw for 330 yards and have 3 tds with 2 picks than an efficient 199 yards 3 tds, no picks and a win.