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1 hour ago, ThPantherFan said:

Sounds like a good pick.

Mind you, there's always Pete Carroll assuming his Raiders stint is one and done (general consensus points that way) but any part Carroll plays at his age would probably look more like what Capers is doing than a direct DC job. 

(my opinion, at least)

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8 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

So they will reward a player with a huge contract for being middle of the pack by year 3.  I do not see it--I think mediocre is worse than being bad. 

I am OK with this if they start developing "Plan B."  Right now we dont have a plan B. 

I don't know that anyone's expecting anything like that.

Most are predicting the fifth year option but anything beyond that is speculation. Dan Graziano pondered the possibility of a short-term, mid-range contract but that's it. 

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't know that anyone's expecting anything like that.

Most are predicting the fifth year option but anything beyond that is speculation. Dan Graziano pondered the possibility of a short-term, mid-range contract but that's it. 

I think the real question is will he accept a short, mid-range contract. As I've said many times in many threads, the 5th year is an option, but Lamar is the only one who played on it. Jones played the final year of his rookie deal. All the other 1st round QBs other than Tua (year 4) got their extensions following year 3 of their rookie deal. Bryce could easily follow suite. Lawrence got a huge extension and hasn't been a franchise QB. I could see his agent pushing for that level of contract just because it's already been given to Lawrence and similar to Purdy and Tua (4 year, not 5). There's a lot of speculation right now obviously, but a couple of these big contracts to not so franchise guys has helped put us in a bad position. 

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10 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I think the real question is will he accept a short, mid-range contract. As I've said many times in many threads, the 5th year is an option, but Lamar is the only one who played on it. Jones played the final year of his rookie deal. All the other 1st round QBs other than Tua (year 4) got their extensions following year 3 of their rookie deal. Bryce could easily follow suite. Lawrence got a huge extension and hasn't been a franchise QB. I could see his agent pushing for that level of contract just because it's already been given to Lawrence and similar to Purdy and Tua (4 year, not 5). There's a lot of speculation right now obviously, but a couple of these big contracts to not so franchise guys has helped put us in a bad position. 

I would bet anything the jags, cards, Miami and San fran would like to have those extensions back.  I am positive they all view them as a huge mistake that cripples your team for the foreseeable future

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5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I would bet anything the jags, cards, Miami and San fran would like to have those extensions back.  I am positive they all view them as a huge mistake that cripples your team for the foreseeable future

I'm sure they do. I sure as hell would. While I agree with the sentiment you need your guy at QB, my opinion on how to build has shifted. Personally, I think resources need to be spent on the offensive line, a solid WR1 with 2 interchangeable guys that can fill the WR2/3 role, and a guy with glue for hands. RBs can be had in later rounds or UDFA. Behind a solid line, those guys become better than their acquired cost. You can entice a FA QB or draft a QB that fits a system rather than spend years trying to build around one only to find out he isn't capable. 

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23 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I think the real question is will he accept a short, mid-range contract. As I've said many times in many threads, the 5th year is an option, but Lamar is the only one who played on it. Jones played the final year of his rookie deal. All the other 1st round QBs other than Tua (year 4) got their extensions following year 3 of their rookie deal. Bryce could easily follow suite. Lawrence got a huge extension and hasn't been a franchise QB. I could see his agent pushing for that level of contract just because it's already been given to Lawrence and similar to Purdy and Tua (4 year, not 5). There's a lot of speculation right now obviously, but a couple of these big contracts to not so franchise guys has helped put us in a bad position. 

He will if he's smart... or if his agent is smart. 

Not about to try and predict that outcome 😕

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