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Why does Bryce get the blame?

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Mr. Scot Grand Master

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51 minutes ago, CRA said:

that's why I reference the entire specific tree Canales came up in and what made the offenses work at each point in time. 

You have 3 offenses.  Wilson, Geno and Baker.   

They all have shared the same traits that made them work.  All the offenses have been relatively uncreative (which Canales essentially conceded he wasn't bringing rocket science to Carolina) and have been dependent on having an aggressive QB downfield to essentially provide the balance to a predictable and boring offensive scheme. 

Deep dive was done into the passing game of all those dudes/offenses before the Bryce/Canales era ever kicked off.   Canales specific tree has always been dependent on the downfield ball at every stop.   It hasn't worked at any point without QB that naturally is aggressive downfield and helps bail the O out.   

The bolded portion highlights where you're going wrong.

Wilson, Geno and Baker aren't "offenses", they're quarterbacks running an offense.

Offenses have concepts. Quarterbacks have skill sets. Sometimes they match. Other times they don't. 

But even when concepts and skill set do match, that isn't a guarantee of success because you have to factor in ability and other things.

Your suggestion that Bryce doesn't fit what Canales does is wrong. He fits just fine. 

It's his ability that's lacking. 

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2 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Mike Evans and Chris Godwin >>>>>> anything we going 

DK and Lockett >>>>>>> anything we got

What is really scary is that Canales who is a WR guy thought XL was also a 1st round pick

XL did go chase down that moonball nothing pass to nowhere last week. 

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23 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Exactly.  Just because you are part of the staff of a Head Coach doesn't make you an immediate replica of that coach once you branch out on your own.  

Yep. It certainly has influences, but ideally you grow into your own.

(Walsh and Shanahan, for example)

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Just now, CRA said:

XL did go chase down that moonball nothing pass to nowhere last week. 

Serious?

Bryce threw that thing with crazy anticipation and put it where it needed to be 

TMac fell on the play. Legette running the corner and the OL had pressure in Young’s lap immediately. Young bailed the entire thing out throwing that thing as early as he did

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7 minutes ago, CRA said:

you want be to talk about broad schemes.   

I want to talk specifically about the offenses Dave Canales worked in.  Which is all Dave knows and it shows. 

If you don't want to talk about Dave's offenses? Cool.  Don't.  But that's all that really matters.  Dave Canales' brand of football in a convo about Dave Canales. 

We've been talking about Dave's offenses the entire time 😄

(For Jimmy is telling you the same things)

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The bolded portion highlights where you're going wrong.

Wilson, Geno and Baker aren't "offenses", they're quarterbacks running an offense.

Offenses have concepts. Quarterbacks have skill sets. Sometimes they match. Other times they don't. 

But even when concepts and skill set do match, that isn't a guarantee of success because you have to factor in ability and other things.

Your suggestion that Bryce doesn't fit what Canales does is wrong. He fits just fine. 

It's his ability that's lacking. 

Bryce doesn't fit fine lol. 

24th ranked offense

25th ranked passing offense

Bryce also is bringing along w/ him a bottom tier comp % vs his peers, a high bad throws % vs his peers, etc. 

In no world is that, fitting fine lol. 

 

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3 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Serious?

Bryce threw that thing with crazy anticipation and put it where it needed to be 

TMac fell on the play. Legette running the corner and the OL had pressure in Young’s lap immediately. Young bailed the entire thing out throwing that thing as early as he did

No chance.  He threw a blind duck

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Bryce doesn't fit fine lol. 

24th ranked offense

25th ranked passing offense

 Bryce also is bringing along w/ him a bottom tier comp % vs his peers, a high bad throws % vs his peers, etc. 

In no world is that, fitting fine lol. 

 

Mr Scot has been taking a pointless middle ground milquetoast position on every issue for twenty some odd years on this forum and nothing is going to stop him now. 

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7 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Serious?

Bryce threw that thing with crazy anticipation and put it where it needed to be 

TMac fell on the play. Legette running the corner and the OL had pressure in Young’s lap immediately. Young bailed the entire thing out throwing that thing as early as he did

Dude.   Don't do this

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