Greg Cosell on Bryce Young

[Waldo]

11 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

This draft will be thick with good #2 QB's to gamble on. Drew Allar, Nussemeier, etc. 

This is genuinely a good draft to take a shot at a good #2. 

We will not, however.

Because they would be better than the #1 they keep propping up and will absolutely make the mistake of taking his 5th. Can't have some nobody showing up the guy they want to make the face of the franchise just because they will probably be better NFL players...

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Waldo said:

Because they would be better than the #1 they keep propping up and will absolutely make the mistake of taking his 5th. Can't have some nobody showing up the guy they want to make the face of the franchise just because they will probably be better NFL players...

Yeah, it will be viewed as a hedge and when Bryce continues to struggle it will create a tough spot in the media and stadium for him. 

[Waldo]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, it will be viewed as a hedge and when Bryce continues to struggle it will create a tough spot in the media and stadium for him. 

They will go out and get another geriatric QB. Hopefully this one can actually finish a game or 2 before their body quits on them.

[kungfoodude]

9 minutes ago, Waldo said:

They will go out and get another geriatric QB. Hopefully this one can actually finish a game or 2 before their body quits on them.

Dalton is under contract for 2026. I would prepare yourself for business as usual in that QB room.

[mrcompletely11]

10 minutes ago, Waldo said:

They will go out and get another geriatric QB. Hopefully this one can actually finish a game or 2 before their body quits on them.

They need to cut Andy, sign a vet that still has an arm and draft someone.    This shouldn't be this difficult 

[Waldo]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

Dalton is under contract for 2026. I would prepare yourself for business as usual in that QB room.

Man that would make Bryce look even worse if they are so afraid of other QBs that they have to keep the guy who couldn't finish a quarter of play before getting hurt or even running a sneak with. 

I don't doubt it but I'm never going to stop making fun of it

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

They need to cut Andy, sign a vet that still has an arm and draft someone.    This shouldn't be this difficult 

This is the ideal situation even if Bryce sticks around. At least an attempt at an overall QB room upgrade.

2 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Man that would make Bryce look even worse if they are so afraid of other QBs that they have to keep the guy who couldn't finish a quarter of play before getting hurt or even running a sneak with. 

I don't doubt it but I'm never going to stop making fun of it

I don't think it's fear, I think from coaching staff to owner they are genuinely true believers.

[Waldo]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think it's fear, I think from coaching staff to owner they are genuinely true believers.

I agree they are believers and always were but if they didn't fear then they wouldn't have resigned Dalton. If they didn't know how beatable he is and how easily he could be put into a corner by someone else then they would have easily made that mistake already. They know and are just hedging their bet which would be fear as motivation. 

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, Waldo said:

I agree they are believers and always were but if they didn't fear then they wouldn't have resigned Dalton. If they didn't know how beatable he is and how easily he could be put into a corner by someone else then they would have easily made that mistake already. They know and are just hedging their bet which would be fear as motivation. 

I think they view Dalton as a trusted mentor at this point. 

It's all about building an environment arouns Bryce.

[OldhamA]

29 minutes ago, CRA said:

Bryce is better than Tim.  But the defense/argument for, is the same argument.  

Tim actually stronger at the intangible strengths.  Bryce stronger at the weaknesses.  Neither had the tools to produce the amount of offense needed in today’s NFL

I'd honestly take The Golden Calf of Bristol over Young. You know you can design an O around his skillset to win you games.

Plus, as a bonus, said O would wear him down within 3 years so you could move on from him.

[CRA]

8 minutes ago, Waldo said:

I agree they are believers and always were but if they didn't fear then they wouldn't have resigned Dalton. If they didn't know how beatable he is and how easily he could be put into a corner by someone else then they would have easily made that mistake already. They know and are just hedging their bet which would be fear as motivation. 

Not just Dalton.   But the only real young arm they would let be seen the past 2 years was a really a bad Jack Plummer.  Who was super weak even for that tier 

Can’t convince me how weak they made the atmosphere around Young hasn’t been intentional.   
 

[Waldo]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think they view Dalton as a trusted mentor at this point. 

It's all about building an environment arouns Bryce.

For a 3rd year QB? That flies with the Teppers and makes the HC and GM look like fools. 

Their fear is evident. Their careers are tied to making it work, it's ehy they signed on here and they are professionals who knows what kind of a situation they could potentially have on their hands if they are not calculating about popping up Bryce. I call BS to that sir. It's why every QB after Bryce couldn't make any other rosters past a PS spot...at best

[kungfoodude]

12 minutes ago, Waldo said:

For a 3rd year QB? That flies with the Teppers and makes the HC and GM look like fools. 

Their fear is evident. Their careers are tied to making it work, it's ehy they signed on here and they are professionals who knows what kind of a situation they could potentially have on their hands if they are not calculating about popping up Bryce. I call BS to that sir. It's why every QB after Bryce couldn't make any other rosters past a PS spot...at best

I think it's a lot of yes men and group think.

[mrcompletely11]

38 minutes ago, Waldo said:

I agree they are believers and always were but if they didn't fear then they wouldn't have resigned Dalton. If they didn't know how beatable he is and how easily he could be put into a corner by someone else then they would have easily made that mistake already. They know and are just hedging their bet which would be fear as motivation. 

I guess we will see in the offseason.   But if this brain trust runs it back in 26 with the same qb room then they deserve everything that's coming to them