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Bryce is elite at deep throws

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mav1234 Grand Master

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1 hour ago, pantherclaw said:

Well, The OP actually provided the stats.  While inknow how people are about PFF, he at least provided them in his post. 

Where are the stats that you are speaking of? 

The stats the Op provided are not about deep balls despite the title of the thread and the tweet saying they were. That is not what PFF big time throws are.

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17 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

Here's one for just deep throws 

 

 

 

20 yards gets you in the club. They have fuged this all up.
If a guy can do the same trajectory and velocity throw at 40 that Bryce can do at 20, who is getting under appreciated? 

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7 minutes ago, strato said:

20 yards gets you in the club. They have fuged this all up.
If a guy can do the same trajectory and velocity throw at 40 that Bryce can do at 20, who is getting under appreciated? 

Kind of strange that half a yard outside the red zone, a TD toss is considered a deep throw. 

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10 minutes ago, strato said:

20 yards gets you in the club. They have fuged this all up.
If a guy can do the same trajectory and velocity throw at 40 that Bryce can do at 20, who is getting under appreciated? 

I don't think Bryce is the guy but I just saw that one being specifically about deep throws and since everyone was talking about it, I posted it

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2 hours ago, frankw said:

Just to be clear. I've been watching football for many years with many different QB's here and on other teams. I've never before seen such a heavy emphasis on this "big time throw" metric before. And I've seen ultimately mediocre QB's make some really nice throws in a Panthers uniform.

Seriously, it was just a joke

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21 minutes ago, RJK said:

I guess we’re counting 20 yard passes as going deep these days 🤷‍♂️ that’s cool. Love the way Bryce has been playing lately 

That's the qualification. It hasn't been changed for the sake of this argument.  

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16 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

That's the qualification. It hasn't been changed for the sake of this argument.  

Unless your a Young doubter (I've decided to use that word instead of hater although I know with a few around here, hater is a much better verb lol)

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Those who don't opening bash Byce at every chance we get, dont have to make up stats. 

Those who can't stop from Bashing Bryce, will opening cry how those same stats don't matter, or claim that they're not good enough. The same stats that all QB's are judged by. 

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1 hour ago, strato said:

20 yards gets you in the club. They have fuged this all up.
If a guy can do the same trajectory and velocity throw at 40 that Bryce can do at 20, who is getting under appreciated? 

In the history of the NFL. OR even just this season,  what is then% of completions of passes that travel 40 yards in the air, regardless of QB? 

If you dont know, i dont understand why you're arguing this. 

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21 minutes ago, BEASTfromdaEAST said:

Anyone who has watched a Panthers game and thinks BY9 is ELITE at anything should never be allowed to have children......

           what GIF

I take that back he is ELITE at making shitty teams look good and getting coaches fired

Real grown up. 

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