Kurt Warner on Bryce Young

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

Bryce's velocity isn't an issue for most balls pending he gets to make the throw in ideal circumstances.  But only a % of plays afford a QB the luxury of ideal circumstances.  You want a QB that can still get it done when they are forced into less ideal scenarios, throws.  Bryce lacks the arm for that often. 

and even in an ideal world, some of the tougher out routes an things like that are just tough for him to pull off.   

 

I think his shitty footwork is largely to blame for having such a low percentage of average NFL velocity throws. Sometimes even in ideal situations, it fails him.

Plus, he is ultimately most comfortable scrambling and making throws. Well, that is going to lead to a lot of fraught scenarios with a less than ideal base to get full velocity. 

His comfort level is literally putting himself in scenarios where he is going to be far less successful.

[Khyber53]

On 1/4/2026 at 7:29 AM, 45catfan said:

Kurt Warner gets it.  I guess Kurt hasn't been seeing the cherry picked stats here on the Huddle where Bryce is apparently an elite QB. 

Again, his horrible mechanics CAN'T be fixed.  Why? Bryce is undersized and the bad mechanics results from him trying to compensate for the lack of height and arm strength.  So unless the puts on 20+ pounds and grows about 4 inches, the idea that he's going to fix his mechanics is unrealistic  Even if he could wave a magic wand and make that so, QBs at this stage in their careers rarely are successful in changing the throwing motion they have been using since youth league football.

Those linemen won't be getting shorter. 

[electro's horse]

I’m sure Bryce refused to throw at the combine because of how good his arm is, actually. 

also because he was a Panda Express Elemental at the time. 

[electro's horse]

2 hours ago, SCMunnerlyn1 said:

Is the eye test for me. I see how quickly he gets through checks and everything else at the line. No real delay issues, sets protections. Its obvious hes intelligent. It's a physical issue. 
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I’ve said this before and there’s some better work on this on another forum I post on but I don’t think Bryce is making reads. I think he’s told in the headset what part of the field to throw to, and if a defender appears he’s just supposed to find a check down. Or if there’s a busted coverage he can throw it but if not check that baby down  

That isn’t historically what going through progressions means.

this picture is bryce_offense.jpg

staring right at the receiver manned up to see if the defender just like gets transported to the negative zone and if not throw to that check down the other way behind the LOS.

best thing about this is how every single linebackers and all but one DB are ignoring the one on one and staring at the check down. Guess where bryce went here. 

 

Edit* I guess defender top of the screen is sprinting over to cover the seam, hard to tell. 

Edited yesterday at 04:57 PM by electro's horse

[Loyalty4Life]

34 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

I’ve said this before and there’s some better work on this on another forum I post on but I don’t think Bryce is making reads. I think he’s told in the headset what part of the field to throw to, and if a defender appears he’s just supposed to find a check down. Or if there’s a busted coverage he can throw it but if not check that baby down  

That isn’t historically what going through progressions means.

this picture is bryce_offense.jpg

staring right at the receiver manned up to see if the defender just like gets transported to the negative zone and if not throw to that check down the other way behind the LOS.

best thing about this is how every single linebackers and all but one DB are ignoring the one on one and staring at the check down. Guess where bryce went here. 

 

Edit* I guess defender top of the screen is sprinting over to cover the seam, hard to tell. 

I think you're 100% right about the point of this play but I don't see the issue with it.  It looks like it designed to get the X receiver 1v1 to take a deeper shot.  We can see the entire defense bite and get drawn to all the action on the right side.  

This play looks to be designed for deep shot to check down.  Kurt actually references this concept in the video where the back is out to the flat with an "escort".  

I'm not following your point.  Many deep shots are planned and are a 2 read and go concept.

[Loyalty4Life]

I think Kurt breaks it down very well.  I watched the whole video and Kurt never once mentions a weak arm.  He talks most about Bryce's mechanics being set at the top of his drop to be in the best position to combine power and accuracy.  I don't hear any references to a lack of velocity, hanging balls up in the air or a lot of the repeated nonsense about Bryce being too small or an inability (physical or mental) to make a play.   

Any QB that isn't setting their feet regardless of arm strength isn't going to be as accurate as they would be with a proper base.  Cam didn't have good footwork at all and his issue was the opposite in this in that he didn't have a power issue because of his arm strength but his bad mechanics lead to accuracy problems.  I do think his arm strength also played into being able to throw the ball well with touch.  

Kurt said it best at the end of the video. Every QB has limitations and every QB has to learn how to work around those limitations to maximize their abilities.  Bryce's consistent improvement, age and potential to continue to improve is why I'm so bullish on seeing him as the starter over the next 2 years.  

[electro's horse]

1 hour ago, Loyalty4Life said:

I think you're 100% right about the point of this play but I don't see the issue with it.  It looks like it designed to get the X receiver 1v1 to take a deeper shot.  We can see the entire defense bite and get drawn to all the action on the right side.  

This play looks to be designed for deep shot to check down.  Kurt actually references this concept in the video where the back is out to the flat with an "escort".  

I'm not following your point.  Many deep shots are planned and are a 2 read and go concept.

Are they biting on the action or did they just read it correctly and bryce still went there. 

this is one on one, you throw this ball. Even the free safety is staring at the check down and since this is probably the best defense in the nfl I imagine he’s not just forgetting how to play

if Bryce is actually making reads or trusts his arm he throws this here 

Edited yesterday at 06:40 PM by electro's horse

[Loyalty4Life]

1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

Are they biting on the action or did they just read it correctly and bryce still went there. 

this is one on one, you throw this ball. Even the free safety is staring at the check down and since this is probably the best defense in the nfl I imagine he’s not just forgetting how to play

if Bryce is actually making reads or trusts his arm he throws this here 

I may be confused on what happened during the play.  Link to the video?

[electro's horse]

1 minute ago, Loyalty4Life said:

I may be confused on what happened during the play.  Link to the video?

i don't have all 22 this was just a still i grabbed from twitter a couple weeks ago.

he threw the check down and it got blown up for nothing

[Loyalty4Life]

Just now, electro's horse said:

i don't have all 22 this was just a still i grabbed from twitter a couple weeks ago.

he threw the check down and it got blown up for nothing

Yeah, I assumed he took the shot to the bottom WR who looks to be manned up.  It also looks like he's covered.  The RB looks to open as well and has a blocker but your said the defense jumped all over that.  In any event, I'd with you and would love to see him throw up the 50/50 ball to the single WR. 

[carolinanimal]

2 hours ago, Loyalty4Life said:

I think Kurt breaks it down very well.  I watched the whole video and Kurt never once mentions a weak arm.  He talks most about Bryce's mechanics being set at the top of his drop to be in the best position to combine power and accuracy.  I don't hear any references to a lack of velocity, hanging balls up in the air or a lot of the repeated nonsense about Bryce being too small or an inability (physical or mental) to make a play.   

Any QB that isn't setting their feet regardless of arm strength isn't going to be as accurate as they would be with a proper base.  Cam didn't have good footwork at all and his issue was the opposite in this in that he didn't have a power issue because of his arm strength but his bad mechanics lead to accuracy problems.  I do think his arm strength also played into being able to throw the ball well with touch.  

Kurt said it best at the end of the video. Every QB has limitations and every QB has to learn how to work around those limitations to maximize their abilities.  Bryce's consistent improvement, age and potential to continue to improve is why I'm so bullish on seeing him as the starter over the next 2 years.  

The problem is that his improvement is from god awful to just awful. After 3 years. I don't think his footwork is going to get better either. Kurt pointed out the hopping and his feet being to close MULTIPLE times. It's something that he does, including with the fact he doesn't like to throw over the middle of the field 

[*FreeFua*]

This was a good watch

I do wonder how much BY’s ankle is impacting some of his footwork right now. Obviously he’s had footwork issues since the beginning of time but it is what it is. That’s how he plays and they knew that when they drafted him

Calling double out and up from your freaking endzone with a wet field and shotty pass protection is insane. Crazy thing is that it was kind of there 

Last one I have a bit of an issue with was the 3rd and 16 play where Bryce checks it down to Chuba. This is where we’re missing Brooks or a back that can make someone miss. However the out to TMac is there. But that’s not BY’s game. He just threw a INT in the previous quarter on an out, why on earth would you call that play? I think Canales can be good but I also don’t think he really takes into account BY’s strengths and weaknesses when calling plays. You don’t ask BY to rip an out at the sticks on 3rd and 16… you just dont

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

This was a good watch

I do wonder how much BY’s ankle is impacting some of his footwork right now. Obviously he’s had footwork issues since the beginning of time but it is what it is. That’s how he plays and they knew that when they drafted him

Calling double out and up from your freaking endzone with a wet field and shotty pass protection is insane. Crazy thing is that it was kind of there 

Last one I have a bit of an issue with was the 3rd and 16 play where Bryce checks it down to Chuba. This is where we’re missing Brooks or a back that can make someone miss. However the out to TMac is there. But that’s not BY’s game. He just threw a INT in the previous quarter on an out, why on earth would you call that play? I think Canales can be good but I also don’t think he really takes into account BY’s strengths and weaknesses when calling plays. You don’t ask BY to rip an out at the sticks on 3rd and 16… you just dont

He won't be correcting his footwork because he doesn't agree it is an issue. He disagrees with every outside source that has told him he should correct it.

[strato]

Yeah watch that Gruden interview, the last 5 minutes for some footwork insight. That was after last year.