The coaching carousel

[strato]

4 minutes ago, UnluckyforSome said:

Yeah, I had that in the original post, but I thought I should keep it concise. It's not a good look though, even though it was before the dog stuff surfaced.

We are in danger of running off the rails here.

I think Vick has served his sentence and should be eligible to be gainfully employed by any business or organization that would be acceptable of having a felonious convict for animal cruelty as a representative. 

What are rails for if not to run off now and then? 
I don’t begrudge Vick living his life afterwards. But he will always be tainted by that. 

Vick was HC at Norfolk State this year btw. 

Edited January 5 by strato

[Basbear]

1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

Irrelevant

I'm comparing him to a coach who's greatest accomplishment in the NFL is getting through Sasha Grey's entire catalog while working in Seattle (laudatory). 

 

I get the bad and I agree with preferring KOC. There's lots I wish he would consider and one huge bonus is he's still learning....I mean everyone's favorite topic BY, thats Dave.....he's the BY of NFL HCs........

I feel he knows at very min, he must bring in a couple QBs to allow Dave to remain employed. Some hot names that would be on the white board- Geno, ugh....Wilson, and one of my super sleepers- Drew Lock. Hell Matt Jones, Tyson Bagnet, etc should be on top options too. 

Its very hard, but within a couple weeks he did bench the "franchise".

I guess I feel like Panthers and Dave are stuck with each other, for better or worst. While its among the best options.......its also not the worst nor another fuging staff reset.

I had

hes better than I thought and learning.......big time off-season for him in QB, DC, and pressure from 5 to 8 wins.......not to cause a wreck via U-haul on fluffing him, but next season is looking murderous. No matter the draft or FA hits, 4 wins outside the Turd mountain NFC south looks impossible. 6 wins is the best I forsee and that's if they get lucky with the draft and FAs.

Edited January 5 by Basbear

[UnluckyforSome]

1 minute ago, Basbear said:

 

I get the bad and I agree with preferring KOC. There's lots I wish he consider and one huge bonus is he's still learning....I mean everyone's favorite topic BY, that Dave.....he's the BY of NFL HCs........

I feel he knows at very min, he must bring in a couple QB that are allow Dave to remain employed. Some hot names that would be on the white board- Geno, ugh....Wilson, and one of my super sleepers- Drew Lock. Hell Matt Jones, Tyson Bagnet, etc should be on top options too. 

Its very hard, but within a couple weeks he did bench the "franchise".

I guess I feel like Panthers and Dave are stuck with each other, for better or worst. While its among the best options.......its also not the worst nor another fuging staff reset.

I had

he better than I thought and learning.......big time off-season for him in QB, DC, and pressure from 5 to 8 wins.......not to cause a wreck via U-haul on fluffing him, but next season looking murderous. No matter the draft or FA hits, 4 wins outside the Turd mountain NFC south looks impossible. 6 wins is the best I forsee and that's if they get lucky with the draft and FAs.

I do think Jones is under contract.

That said, there needs to be an infusion of new blood in the qb room.

[Basbear]

15 minutes ago, UnluckyforSome said:

I do think Jones is under contract.

That said, there needs to be an infusion of new blood in the qb room.

Brother tossed them a 5th for Jones and a 6th. Or something close, get something done.

I feel Dave knows his job is on the line, ME- WISE 10000000% I would NOT be tied to only BY and Dalton...... Lock, use the 2nd rounder(2-5th rounders) on somebody, trade, etc. It needs to done and its determines the future. BY is a blackhole in terms of hope......Id want to find other options at the cost of not using the 1st rounder. But that's me, Dave must knows this as well and if not......I hope 2026 has better HC options....

I feel 4 legit names should be in all the camps and OTAs. Rookies, former 1st round bust(lance?!?!), etc. 

 

[PanthersATL]

Have we mentioned Cardinals' Gannon is out too?

[strato]

22 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Brother tossed them a 5th for Jones and a 6th. Or something close, get something done.

I feel Dave knows his job is on the line, ME- WISE 10000000% I would NOT be tied to only BY and Dalton...... Lock, use the 2nd rounder(2-5th rounders) on somebody, trade, etc. It needs to done and its determines the future. BY is a blackhole in terms of hope......Id want to find other options at the cost of not using the 1st rounder. But that's me, Dave must knows this as well and if not......I hope 2026 has better HC options....

I feel 4 legit names should be in all the camps and OTAs. Rookies, former 1st round bust(lance?!?!), etc. 

 

As little faith as I have that the general idea of what you suggest as a plan, will be implemented… it is malfeasance not to try and upgrade from Young. I just won’t believe it will happen until see it. 

[Basbear]

6 minutes ago, strato said:

As little faith as I have that the general idea of what you suggest as a plan, will be implemented… it is malfeasance not to try and upgrade from Young. I just won’t believe it will happen until see it. 

Its a basic IQ test, no worries tho if they don't. Panthers would just be looking for a HC+staff, QB, and maybe a GM after 2026.....

Edited January 5 by Basbear

[strato]

17 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Its a basic IQ test, no worries tho if they don't. Panthers would just be looking for a HC+staff, QB, and maybe a GM after 2026.....

And start the whole thing over. Why wait? 

[Basbear]

32 minutes ago, strato said:

And start the whole thing over. Why wait? 

I mean I hope they have a plan, jobs are on the line. Why cause of growth in wins and everything/one has improved during the Dan and Dave era, even the hotdogs taste better... They are smart enough to not go into the start of next year without more real options than the current bunch....current bunch could pull a miracle and improve some too, just get in the 10-18 range would be great and bring more problems that are welcomed with improving....but Im not betting on that, I am on them bring in a couple names even if they have to use cap space and early picks(you never want to be saved by a rookie QB, but it does happen ex- iants). 

[strato]

6 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I mean I hope they have a plan, jobs are on the line. Why cause of growth in wins and everything/one has improved during the Dan and Dave era, even the hotdogs taste better... They are smart enough to not go into the start of next year without more real options than the current bunch....current bunch could pull a miracle and improve some too, just get in the 10-18 range would be great and bring more problems that are welcomed with improving....but Im not betting on that, I am on them bring in a couple names even if they have to use cap space and early picks(you never want to be saved by a rookie QB, but it does happen ex- iants). 

Going into this year, while I was opposed to it, I understood that Bryce would get the year to demonstrate his potential, talent, value.  
Myself, I don’t see how what he has put on record justifies an entire organization and fan base putting all their eggs in his basket. 
QBs around the league have proven themselves in half the time he has been given while he is still an enigma more or less.  
Some were taken high, Williams for example, others were drafted well below his position and for a much cheaper investment, and several have outshined him.  
 

He languishes in his meager progress zone, making incremental improvement that lags behind these others.

Shough has lapped him in half a season. Williams has lapped him. Maye has lapped him. Others. Look at Stroud.  That was a legit horrible team in 2022, with a defensive HC, that has made the playoffs each year he has played for them. And has also transitioned to a new OC, with little disruption. What is different with Young? I think we know. If we can know, they should also know. 
 

Astute people Have to see this. If they can’t look around and say hmmm ‘’why is this this way?” they are just not qualified to be making these kinds of decisions.  

[PanthersATL]

The Cowboys have fired defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus

[CarolinaLivin]

John Harbaugh is available 

[GoobyPls]

Harbaugh is out wow

[UnluckyforSome]