Dan Morgan: Panthers will pickup BY’s 5th year.

[jamos14]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I see 2 2nd year players, 1 rookie, disagree about Geno, strongly, Murray is way better than Young and they still want to move on, but hey I will give you Tua.  So yeah my point stands

 

 

Enjoy being wrong again.

 

The majority of the league's media and NFL decision makers (including our own front office and coaching staff) know it's a no brainer to sign a 5th year option and see what happens.

 

But hey, keep up the good work with your hot takes.  

[TD alt]

35 minutes ago, NAS said:

We know what Jameis, Howell and Minshew are - not a long term option at all.

Davis Mills is interesting but such a small sample size.  Even Kyle Allen had a nice run of games once upon a time.  There's no proven commodity for starting level QB you can build around.  Malik Willis is the only one I would try to bring in for legitimate competition but he'll probably want to be a guaranteed starter somewhere else this offseason.

I don't know what Howell is. If I do, it's only by assumption based upon his lack of opportunities.

[woahfraze]

21 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

I don't think we should spent $27m on a replacement level player.

I'm a Miami Hurricanes fan, so I have zero affinity for Howell, he's just objectively a better QB than Young.

Absolutely not. That’s too much for replacement level player. Bryce may be that. Or he may turn into something more. If you can’t see the flashes, you’re willfully blind. There’s more bad than good right now, but there’s less bad than there was earlier in his career. He’s only 24 and he’s showing signs of improvement. He may never become consistent enough to justify a long term contract, but he’s shown enough to roll the dice on what effectively will turn into a 2 year, $30MM contract for the next two years to see if he can earn something longer. 
 

Sure, in his one season starting, Howell managed to throw for 3,946 yards and toss 21 TDs, but it took throwing the ball an astounding 612 times. He also threw 21 INTs (for a particularly egregious 3.4 INT%). For all the talk of him being a deep ball thrower, he still only averaged 6.4 YPA, with an average air yards of 5.6 yards per attempt. And for all the excuses of Washington’s line giving him no protection (65 sacks taken that year), he was only pressured on 22.7% of his dropbacks, which is a few percentage points lower than what Bryce has had to deal with each year (24.2, 26.7, and 24.0%). 
 

These are all numbers that are at best roughly equivalent to Bryce’s production the past two years. It’s wild to me people can claim so confidently that he’s a better QB. 

[XClown1986]

1 minute ago, bandu said:

so u or anyone can just ook at Bryce Young's #'s & tell that he is in fact one of the worst statistically speaking starting Qbs in the NFL .so Dan Morgan would have to obvisouly think at this point that Bryce Young still has not reached his ceiling ? 

ladies & gents there is an alarming pattern here of just one project after the next whether it be  a very raw XL, DJ Johnson ,or Trevin Wallace , a RB with a torn ACL or one of the smallest players in the entire NFL with supposedly a super processor the list goes on & on where the Panthers have invested ALOT & got little in return from developing these players that they thought had high upsides 

when you start paying players based solely  off of potential rather than production then that's just bad buisness..just saying

The issue is the position Bryce plays. Finding a good/great quarterback isn't easy. Plus, it sometimes takes years for these guys to actually become good/great. What you have to look for is progress instead of regression. Bryce has shown that. Can he put it all together? We don't know yet. But that's why you place a smaller bet with the 5th year option, and wait to see. You could be wrong and lose your 30 mil bet, but you didn't hitch your wagon long-term and lose much more.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, jamos14 said:

Enjoy being wrong again.

 

The majority of the league's media and NFL decision makers (including our own front office and coaching staff) know it's a no brainer to sign a 5th year option and see what happens.

 

But hey, keep up the good work with your hot takes.  

we are not talking about the 5th we are talking about bryce being one of if not the worst starter in the nfl for the past 3 years.  Dont move the goalposts my man