Wild Card QB Performance Rankings

[electro's horse]

My girlfriend from Niagara Falls who’s a ravens fans and all of my friends who are also ravens fans 

[mrcompletely11]

12 minutes ago, frankw said:

We had a number of fans here who couldn't wait to get Cam Newton out the door so I don't see it as being far fetched there are some Ravens fans that aren't enamored with Lamar Jackson. As it is Lamar has squarely placed the burden of the entire franchise on himself now with Harbaugh out as he receives minute by minute updates from the Ravens org about their head coaching search. Good luck with that.

There was nobody i knew in the real world I knew that wanted to get rid of cam post mvp pre watt hit.  Thats just crazy talk

Edited 23 hours ago by mrcompletely11

[frankw]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

There was nobody i knew in the real world I knew that wanted to get rid of cam post mvp pre watt hit.  Thats just crazy talk

Years ago I would encounter fans in public who grumbled about Cam Newton's personality. Now ten years later you still can't go anywhere online where Cam Newton is mentioned or a topic of discussion and not see multiple comments about him not diving on a fumble in the Super Bowl. Unfortunately people like that exist.

[strato]

2 hours ago, Navy_football said:

So me saying I know fans that want to get rid of Lamar and Dak should be interpreted as I think Bryce is as good as them? Okie dokie. 

 

If you can’t see it, that is on you.  
 

You can know what you meant, and understand that maybe you could have expressed yourself in a way that made it clearer.  
You could see how it could be interpreted the way I took it.
Or you don’t want to acknowledge it, as it appears is happening. 
See that or don’t, I don’t give a poo. 

[strato]

1 hour ago, frankw said:

We had a number of fans here who couldn't wait to get Cam Newton out the door so I don't see it as being far fetched there are some Ravens fans that aren't enamored with Lamar Jackson. As it is Lamar has squarely placed the burden of the entire franchise on himself now with Harbaugh out as he receives minute by minute updates from the Ravens org about their head coaching search. Good luck with that.

All fan bases have people that are gonna grumble about imperfection.  It is part of it.  

That doesn’t always rise to the level of serious ‘get rid of them’ sentiments.  It is just wanting more.  Lots of people are hard to satisfy. I am for sure hard on any player making many millions of bucks, I just expect a lot for the tens of millions they get paid.  
 

The thing about QBs is people make them golden calves - where you can’t say things about ‘their QB’. Even though they are saying the same type of stuff all the time about other players…..

[frankw]

30 minutes ago, strato said:

All fan bases have people that are gonna grumble about imperfection.  It is part of it.  

That doesn’t always rise to the level of serious ‘get rid of them’ sentiments.  It is just wanting more.  Lots of people are hard to satisfy. I am for sure hard on any player making many millions of bucks, I just expect a lot for the tens of millions they get paid.  
 

The thing about QBs is people make them golden calves - where you can’t say things about ‘their QB’. Even though they are saying the same type of stuff all the time about other players…..

Well. Unfortunately the Cam Newton era put a spotlight on some very ugly folks. We'll leave it at that.

Athlete salaries especially for certain skill positions have gotten absurd to say the least and we live in heightened times of awareness as a society so general criticism will always be present.

For me it boils down to what I'm seeing and hearing with my own eyes and ears. If the QB is pulling his weight and even doing some of the heavy lifting for those around him then he will receive the benefit of the doubt so long as he is holding up his end of the bargain. And all QB's even the really good ones are going to have some lesser games compared to others. But where we are now is basically just being thrilled when our guy can do the most basic things on a football field. And there are people who can't understand why dialogue is not getting any better. If it were not so absurd it would be quite amusing.

Edited 21 hours ago by frankw

[strato]

It really does seem like there is a standard for players and then over here in a separate box, we have the Bryce standards. Graded on a curve.  
 

I said before 2024 that he could improve and be twice as good and that would still leave him as a subpar player.  And that is what happened.  
Finally this year he had a couple of games that would be good for anyone. But so much of the rest is mediocre production and a small band of people pushing that as good enough. Proof. 
 

Now we are nearing the end of the theoretically beneficial rookie deal bargain years. Stakes are getting much higher.  
 

One more season of bargain left, 

Edited 19 hours ago by strato

[Navy_football]

4 hours ago, strato said:

If you can’t see it, that is on you.  
 

You can know what you meant, and understand that maybe you could have expressed yourself in a way that made it clearer.  
You could see how it could be interpreted the way I took it.
Or you don’t want to acknowledge it, as it appears is happening. 
See that or don’t, I don’t give a poo. 

Nah it's really all on you. So I should have said I know Ravens and Cowboys fans that want to get rid of their QBs, but... just in case you think I'm saying our QB is as good as them, I'm not. But just in case you do. I'm not. Even though I didn't say he is or even alluded to it. Oh and just in case, I don't think Dalton is better either. But I want you to know just in case you think that's what I meant. 

That doesn't even make sense. And if you can't see that you're looking for reasons to be confrontational, then I give even less poo. Enjoy the team or be in your feelings all the time. That's on you. Only you.