Panthers have a Jalen Coker problem.

[electro's horse]

2 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

If you sit out a year and don’t have 3 years accrued you are an ERFA again. It’s that simple. There’s no way there’s a loophole that you are an UFA after 2 years accrued and you skip RFA year when you have 3 accrued seasons.

Actually upon further review it not actually clear what would happen. Google AI (I know) says “it may” lead them to being an ERFA again. 

[WhoKnows]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

UFA's are players with four or more accrued seasons and an expired contract per NFL rules. 

Also, holding out means Coker does not accrue any more time, also per NFL rules.

He is indeed correct that he would be an ERFA. This is why you don't see hold outs. The rules literally don't allow it to work at all. It would be career poison.

https://operations.nfl.com/inside-football-ops/nfl-operations/nfl-free-agency/types-of-free-agents/

Which is why he’s a Panther for 2 more years at a fixed price with not much he can do. 

[NorthTryon]

13 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Not a single person in this thread has suggested he get “top league wideout money”

When people mentioned reasonable deals for a player in his position, you started talking about him holding out. What would he be holding out for? That's it, top league wideout money. Because that is what's next after Shaheed and the mid-level contracts that people suggested. To which you again replied about holding out. I jokingly sent a friend the video of Coker's dad dancing in the stands during the playoff game talking about how negotiations are going to be difficult. In actuality, they're not at all. And he's not going to hold out or he's going to get embarrassed. 

[kungfoodude]

Just now, electro's horse said:

As a returner.

and are you really bringing up pro bowls like that matters

 

Yeah a returner with 74 catches, 1207 receiving yards and 7 TD's in his career at the point he was named a Pro Bowler. But since you don't think that matters, he was also a first team All Pro that season, as well.

You can dig this hole as deep as you want but I have no idea what the point of this is for you. Just to be as wrong as possible as many times as possible?

This is literally much ado about nothing.

[electro's horse]

Just now, NorthTryon said:

When people mentioned reasonable deals for a player in his position, you started talking about him holding out. What would he be holding out for? That's it, top league wideout money. 

How many times do I need to post Josh Palmer 

[WhoKnows]

1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

Actually upon further review it not actually clear what would happen. Google AI (I know) says “it may” lead them to being an ERFA again. 

It’s clear. If you sit out and don’t accrue you go into the next season at the same level almost like the sit out year never happened. There’s no loophole to UFA after two accrued seasons. 

[jb2288]

I have no problem signing him long term this offseason, but it would be in that 6.5-7M a year range 

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Actually upon further review it not actually clear what would happen. Google AI (I know) says “it may” lead them to being an ERFA again. 

Ah, we have the core of the issue. Someone not using their brain and just simply looking at the league rules.

The dumbing down of humanity keeps increasing.

[NorthTryon]

Just now, electro's horse said:

How many times do I need to post Josh Palmer 

[strato]

22 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

Lose him in 2027? That’s not happening. He’s locked into an ERFA for 2026 and he’s a RFA in 2027. For $7M or so we tender him as a 1st rounder. Is anyone giving up their 1st for Coker after 1 more year with Young?

There’s no sitting out for two years. We can think about the extension after 2026 and we still take advantage of the RFA year and extend him beyond that.

I estimate a two year deal with them buying his RFA year. And his agent not wanting to lock him in for longer. 

[electro's horse]

17 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

. Do you think his agent is telling him now’s the time to get an extension averaging 30-400-3TDs a year?

The guy paid on commission? I can guarantee you that’s what he’s saying actually.

Risking commission on 1.08 million dollars for a chance at commission on 30 over 3 is an easy calculation to make. 

[kungfoodude]

The amount of people in this thread that know nothing about NFL free agency rules is simply astounding. 

[WhoKnows]

2 minutes ago, strato said:

I estimate a two year deal with them buying his RFA year. And his agent not wanting to lock him in for longer. 

He won’t get a new contract this year. It will likely be before his 4th year. Panthers can use the RFA for a cheap year in 2027 and then give him a 3-4 year extension for 2028-2030/2031.

All assuming he has a solid year in 2026 and we want to extend him.

There’s just 0 reason for Panthers to do anything different as worst case is you get him for 2 more cheap years or for 1 more cheap year and a 1st round pick.

[WhoKnows]

4 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

The guy paid on commission? I can guarantee you that’s what he’s saying actually.

Risking commission on 1.08 million dollars for a chance at commission on 30 over 3 is an easy calculation to make. 

There is no 3 for 30 this year. Sitting out could ruin his career. If he plays lights out this year, the agent might be able to get 4 for 60 next year.