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Bryce Not the Only QB Who Gets Grief

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mrcompletely11 Grand Master

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51 minutes ago, strato said:

He was hired because there was no one that wanted the job. Tepper and Bryce Young in early 2024 after that 2023 season? 
People they wanted to hire were ducking out of the way. 

It was openly discussed that maybe we would need to hire one that wasn’t ready and let him grow into the job. And that is what they did. 

Mike Vrabel wanted the job

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1 hour ago, HeelsPanthersCanes said:

No.  There are 32 head coaching jobs in the NFL. It's maybe the most premium position in all of sports, other than starting QB in the NFL. 

The idea "noone wanted the job" is laughable, and if true, says way more about how far behind this franchise is.  

I believe players dont want to come here because of who we are and the city, which is why we just overpaid Phillips.  But coaches / grownups don't care about that stuff.

This team made a massive mistake hiring Canales, and until they fix it, we will be 8-9 at best.  

No? Lol. As if you have a clue.
Get back to me when you escape that cloud of delusion. The people Tepper wanted to hire wanted nothing to do with job. poo is documented. 

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30 minutes ago, XClown1986 said:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/mike-vrabel-breaks-silence-on-2024-head-coaching-cycle-that-resulted-in-him-not-getting-a-job/

That's just not true.

"I feel like I can work with anybody. I feel like winning is the ultimate goal and I — just like our team — have got to be willing to adjust and adapt to things that are going on."

When one of the conditions is Bryce has to be your ride or die, you can't adjust and adapt. Bryce being the guy was a condition from the get go. 

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8 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

"I feel like I can work with anybody. I feel like winning is the ultimate goal and I — just like our team — have got to be willing to adjust and adapt to things that are going on."

When one of the conditions is Bryce has to be your ride or die, you can't adjust and adapt. Bryce being the guy was a condition from the get go. 

This is conjecture. The article simply says Vrabel had no interest in coaching the Panthers. There wasn't a reason given.

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6 hours ago, HeelsPanthersCanes said:

If Dave Canales drafts Allar, it will cement what I already know about him being an absolute fraud as an "offensive genius".

They should contact you before making any personnel decisions.

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4 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Mike Vrabel wanted the job

I would have been great with him. The ground rules though, were the coach comes from offense. And the latest trend was playcaller so that too. And Bryce is our QB. 

I am not throwing Canales a parade right now, at all. However, for the sake of argument, if results are the final arbiter? He came in not ready for the job and in year two, technically, they were a division champ. So whatever you think of him, he has some ammo for his cause.
This year should tell a lot with the reorganization of offensive chain of command and Bevell on board. 

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      You don’t even need 1b because Tepper is the only one foolish enough to wheel that deal.    Player wise? Jake’s elbow. JR and Pep getting sideways, no Carruth, Cam’s shoulder, Luke’s concussions, it would be a long list of stuff. You can take it down to certain plays in games. Fox chasing 2 point conversions in the SB would be on my list. RMJr slipping at the end of that same game was not helpful. 
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