What will Chud's offense look like?

[blackcatgrowl]

But without Philip Rivers too...

Instead, we'll get a close 2nd to Phillip Rivers in passing that can run like LT.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5998288

;)

[communist]

Ha! Good point. How do you have one of the top offenses in the league, the best defense in the league, and miss the playoffs? It seems impossible. It can't be done!

you forgot about the "best" special teams in the world...

[Galvatron]

:D

[hepcat]

awesome pic

[rodeo]

it depends greatly on who we draft. if we end up with Newton, the offense will look pretty damn handsome. if we stick with Clausen, it'll look vaguely like an ostrich.

[TheRealDeal]

1st and 2nd downs:

Moore

Smith

Shockey

Gettis

DWill/Stew

LaFell/Fia/Rosario

IF we ever get to a third down (6+) again:

Moore

Smith

Shockey

Gettis

LaFell

Goodson/AE (Not Likely)

3rd and short:

Moore

Smith

Shockey

Rosario

Fia

Stew

Edit:

If we draft Green, replace LaFell with Green and replace AE with LaFell

[jramsey4]

1st and 2nd downs:

Moore

Smith

Shockey

Gettis

DWill/Stew

LaFell/Fia/Rosario

IF we ever get to a third down (6+) again:

Moore

Smith

Shockey

Gettis

LaFell

Goodson/AE (Not Likely)

3rd and short:

Moore

Smith

Shockey

Rosario

Fia

Stew

Edit:

If we draft Green, replace LaFell with Green and replace AE with LaFell

I actually agree I think Moore will end up winning the job if we have TC. If we draft a guy like Newton (who I think is perfect for this O) he probably will only see the field if he gets injured or sucks it up again. I see no way Clausen is starting unless something unforeseen happens.

[panthers55]

But without Philip Rivers too...

Chud's offense will probably remind people around here a lot of Dan Henning's first half work. I say that because once we got ahead or within a field goal in the second half our offense always went super-conservative.

We will also use the Tight End more as a receiving option, that's something Chud did a lot in Cleveland, and it's also a big part of the Turner variant to the Coryell offense.

That means a lot of power running and short, controlled passes to the middle, coupled with a few heaves downfield every game to see if Smitty or one of the other receivers can make a play. There will be a lot of outs to the tight end, and instead of the backs being the final check-down option, we will have many more plays where they're supposed to catch the ball and get yards after the catch.

Picture our 2003-2005 offense with our current personnel. Instead of Davis, Foster and Goings running we now have Williams, Stewart, and Goodson. Instead of Moose, Smitty, Colbert, and Proehl we'll have Gettis, LaFell, Smitty, and Edwards. Instead of Mangum and whoever the other forgettable Tight Ends were, we will have Shockey, King, Rosario, and potentially Barnidge. The offensive line will be a ton better, it's young and not 'roided up.

The only trouble spot is QB. I personally believe Clausen will look worlds better than he did last year. And I also won't be surprised to see us take a QB in the draft, but if we do that guy won't be ready for a while.

I see us looking like a completely different, and like a much, much better unit.

That is a pretty good assessment with a few changes. Henning was a feed the stud kind of guy and didn't use very many mutiple receiver sets instead often using 2 TEs. He was also know for snapping always on the first count, being less than imaginitive, and would run the same plays whether they worked or not.

Chud by contrast will use the TE more but also use 4 wideout sets, put people in motion and try and spread the field more both horizontally and vertically.

I suspect we will see alot more 10-15 yard stick routes as well actually using the TE as a primary receiver. As you noted we should do more screens, designed dumpoffs to backs in the flats and over the middle.

Of course this all will be determined by whether or not the line holds up this year and whether our quarterbacks can execute the offense.

I suspect we will see more plays designed to get Smith open assuming he is still here and will utilize Williams and Goodson in the passing game. Obviously we will run quite a bit but hopefully in a less predictable fashion than either davidson or Henning.

[CarolinaCatBrigade]

As far as I'm concerned I really never saw a difference last season between Clausen and Moore, even with the difference in games they played.

[jramsey4]

As far as I'm concerned I really never saw a difference last season between Clausen and Moore, even with the difference in games they played.

I like him better in this O because he has the better deep ball. Not to mention he actually seems to be a pretty decent leader. I think last year was such a cluster f. that you really can't condemn anybody on this O (except maybe Otah WTF is wrong with this guy). I just didn't see any glimmer of hope from Clausen but I don't see any reason to cut him or anything just don't get your hopes up.

[CarolinaCatBrigade]

I like him better in this O because he has the better deep ball. Not to mention he actually seems to be a pretty decent leader. I think last year was such a cluster f. that you really can't condemn anybody on this O (except maybe Otah WTF is wrong with this guy). I just didn't see any glimmer of hope from Clausen but I don't see any reason to cut him or anything just don't get your hopes up.

I will agree with you on the arm strength and personality, but as far as watching their performances in the game:

Moore took more risks vs. Clausen was very conservative

- I don't fault ether, although Moore should know not to throw the ball into the endzone in triple coverage. Clausen on the other hand is very scared and immature, however I feel Clausen will impress at Training Camp.

[CRA]

That is a pretty good assessment with a few changes. Henning was a feed the stud kind of guy and didn't use very many mutiple receiver sets instead often using 2 TEs. He was also know for snapping always on the first count, being less than imaginitive, and would run the same plays whether they worked or not.

Chud by contrast will use the TE more but also use 4 wideout sets, put people in motion and try and spread the field more both horizontally and vertically.

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Chud didn't run a lot of 4 WR sets and so forth in Clev. He basically threw to 2 guys when they weren't running. They ran the ball and some shorter stuff to set up the big plays downfield......he definately had a feed the stud mentality imo while in Clev.

[jramsey4]

I will agree with you on the arm strength and personality, but as far as watching their performances in the game:

Moore took more risks vs. Clausen was very conservative

- I don't fault ether, although Moore should know not to throw the ball into the endzone in triple coverage. Clausen on the other hand is very scared and immature, however I feel Clausen will impress at Training Camp.

As I said I really don't think last year was an accurate repensation of either but I always can't help but be excited when I think back to the end of 09 and Moore was outstanding. And personally I don't think this is the kind of offense you want a conservative QB. Its a vertical attacking O (or at least everything that Chud has done makes me think it will be who knows) and Clausen just never showed me anything that made me think he fits in one.

[panthers55]

Chud didn't run a lot of 4 WR sets and so forth in Clev. He basically threw to 2 guys when they weren't running. They ran the ball and some shorter stuff to set up the big plays downfield......he definately had a feed the stud mentality imo while in Clev.

And I wouldn't exactly want him to do here what he did in Cleveland. I am hoping another 2 years in San Diego after being in Cleveland means he will run this offense more like San Diego which led the league in offense last year versus Cleveland. He had a good year in 2007 and really helped Anderson have a good year. But it was a one hit wonder and he was gone after 2008. Maybe I am being too optimistic and hoping he opens up the playbook and does what he says he is going to do which is attack.

The correlations between Brady Quinn and Clausen are painful to ponder so I won't even go there.

I don't think Chud was a unanimous choice so people will be watching over his shoulder and taking names. But what I hope was shared was that we want a more wide open offense which is less predictable and uses more misdirection. That Rivera wants the SD offense not the Cleveland 2008 offense which was worse than Davidson's.

But again it might be me, Chud could turn out to be a dud if he tries to make us Cleveland South and forgets that we need to score points in this division. On the other hand, San Diego was 10th and 1st in total yards the past 2 years. Either of those would beat the hell out of this year. Now we just need to get our version of Phillips Rivers.

But what do I know. I was actually thought Davidson would do a good job at least from the way he talked when he first got here. Boy was I wrong on that one.